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People can go to jail for blackhat?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by pockett, Feb 12, 2010.

  1. pockett

    pockett Newbie

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    hi
    I wonder if anyone has heard cases of people who were arrested because of blackhat

    because I'm thinking of a way to earn money by google adsense, but using blackhat methods, and the register adsense has my address, I am a little worried

    Sorry my bad english, is not my main language
     
  2. thehilitereel

    thehilitereel Registered Member

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    Depends what you think is black hat. Everything is illegal now days, living overseas is a luxury if you deal with Americans primarily.
     
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  3. blazen

    blazen Regular Member

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    It depends on what you do whether it is legal or not. Email spamming is blackhat and can get you arrested. I also would suggest not to do click fraud. Besides those most blackhat methods are fine. If you are in doubt, then don't do it or get the advice of a lawyer.
     
  4. Dangazzm

    Dangazzm Regular Member

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    Blackhat as a general rule means unethical and isn't illegal just frowned upon.

    Some people get this confused with illegal and some things that people may do and don it black hat is just plain illegal... so meh. It all depends on what you are trying to do.

    Are you trying to destroy your competitors bandwidth to take them offline so you can beat them in the SERPs? Not blackhat... ILLEGAL!
     
  5. erroronline14

    erroronline14 Regular Member

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    How about creating and distributing spam tools?
     
  6. bryanon

    bryanon Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Simply put, it depends on the laws of the country you live in. Period.

    The laws in the UK and the States (and other Common Law countries) are rather complex and it's always a good idea to consult with a lawyer before any large venture. As for Civil Law countries, the laws vary a lot. For instance:

    - in the Estonian law (a small country in Eastern Europe) the definition of fraud is "Gaining financial benefit through creating a false illusion" - meaning that the vast majority of blackhat techniques are considered illegal in this country and, in theory, you can even be jailed by putting up a content gateway that promises content which isn't there - even though the people filling in the survey don't experience any financial loss.

    - in Cyprus, on the other hand, the definition is pretty much the same, but there's an important addition to the clause saying "... and the activities have caused harm or financial loss", making most activities that don't result in direct financial loss (such as most blackhat CPA methods) perfectly legal.

    All in all, check the legislation of your country of residence, and in case of doubt, consult a lawyer. There's no such thing as an international law on fraud so it's impossible to answer your question.
     
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    Hyperion Regular Member

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    If you only make like 50-100$ a day I don't think Google will sue you. It's simply not worth the cost (unless they want to make a statement). I guess they'll just close your account instead of suing you.
     
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    mentallychallenged Junior Member

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    If you are worried, I assume you are thinking something which you suspect is illegal (even in your mind) Is that worth it?

     
  9. SSL9000J

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    There's been a lot of talk about this lately.

    If something can land you in jail, it isn't Black Hat. Period.

    Black Hat can get accounts banned and generally pisses off affiliate networks, but the methods stop short of illegal.
     
  10. pockett

    pockett Newbie

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    Thanks for the replies, helped me a lot about this doubt
    what I do is nothing "heavy", so I think I will have no problem
     
  11. veroc

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    In spain nothing is illegal. There is a no smoking law, but everybody smoke in private places....About the thread, even if you are arrested by the police, all the tv channels will come to you asking for your feeling. if you say "I am a social media victim" then you are free again. Crazy country
     
  12. ClThis

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    hmmm, my next destination......
     
  13. raidel21

    raidel21 Regular Member

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    I think you wanna do click fraud and in that case
    you will get banned.
    Anything worse and it's 3 to 5 in the slammer.
     
  14. theguy2

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    how about email marketing, like lemme say i send around 100k emails a month, thats spamming n that makes it illegal right??
     
  15. raidel21

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    But of-course.
     
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    @ raidel21....if 100k + emails a month is illegal, then what are the work arounds? Just being based in another country...or perhaps covering your tracks well enough if you are stateside??? Just been doing some research is all...
     
  17. raidel21

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    1 spam is illegal..
    But yeah..of-course there are ways around it.
    You can play the field and not get burned..
    Just take it with ease. Be smart. Be very smart.
     
  18. seowizards

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    if your in the uk doing that , you'l get a slap on the wrist and a fine, fuck! i got sent down for kicking someones head in "there's a reason why" but i got sent down for 1 year and half but only served 6 month for so called good behaviour!

    the law is a joke in the uk and can get off very lightly. specially with illegal stuff like spamming or shit. you'l most likley get a fine rather then a sentence
     
  19. LiamLC

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    Yes I know of people who have been arrested for black hat. I wouldn't worry about it if your doing stuff with adsense. You can only get arrested for stuff that you aren't allowed to talk about here on BHW anyway[like CS, PPI, and spam (i think you can talk about spam)] Just stay clear of that stuff and the worst thing that will come your way is an account ban.
     
  20. juanki

    juanki Registered Member

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    When a bank (that you never have any business with it) makes an unsolicited call to offer you a credit card, is it illegal? Why is sending unsolicited commercial emails to anyone illegal?

    About the topic, if anyone puts a brief list of which activities are included as blackhat, maybe you can start telling which ones can get you to jail and which don't. Selling replicas of branded products could be one that gets you to jail in some countries, but I'm not sure if you guys put that one in the blackhat list.