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Penguin Update Learning’s 19/10/13

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Killix, Oct 19, 2013.

  1. Killix

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    Hey Guys,

    So here is my second update, it's hard for me to give such a definative answer with a small sample size but from what i have learnt from this i have implemented into sites and i seem to be doing very well.

    http://www.seostyx.com/case-study/penguin-5-update-learnings-so-far-19/

    Hope this helps some of you.
     
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    I mentioned this in another thread and some folks called me crazy. I simply disavowed every single link....and it ranked....

    Thanks for the writeup, interesting read.
     
  3. Killix

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    I did catch that actually, its really interesting that that worked for you. Do you mind me asking how many links the domain had when you disavowed? only i did try this on one of my personal domains and it didn't work for me.

    Thanks.
     
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    Question for ya: aside from the content being "quality", have you noticed any other patterns in onsite optimization? KW density, length of content, etc. Basically, how is Google assessing quality and relevance?
     
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    Totally BS.
    I wonder when people will realize that the disavov tool isn't created to help them...
     
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    Puppies takin' the Matt Cutts way.
     
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    I admire your persistence OP. But don't quit your dayjob.
     
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    Hello Sir,

    in my View Do Only Content marketing its Save to all Updates.

    Thank You
     
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    It had around 3800 links as per GWT.
     
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    Do you really just sit and randomly troll people? It's all I have ever seen you do on this forum. How about trying to do something more productive with your time..?
     
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    Oh, you sure told me, kid... :)
     
  13. Killix

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    Interesting the ones I tried had around the same give or take, but still didn't rank. I've moved to using the churn and burn 301 method seems to be working great for me at the moment currently ranking some high volume gambling terms. I did rank payday loans again but was removed due to a manual review, only last like 7 hours lol.
     
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    Great article, thank you for sharring it
     
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    update, update, update
    i think google will make me and other webmaster crazy :(
     
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    :sarcasm: I appreciate that you've turned BHW into your personal RSS feed :sarcasm:

    Either post the fucking content on bhw or gtfo. We aren't your personal RSS feed for your blog and dont care when you write a new blog post.

    This place would be a god damn clusterfuck if everyone decided to post when they added a new post to their blgo.
     
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    Why not just paste the article / content here instead of a link to your website that doesn't even load...
     
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    PENGUIN 5 UPDATE LEARNING'S SO FAR 19/10/2013
    By Lucas Abraham October 19, 2013 6 Comments Case Study
    So this is an update on the post I originally made here. After some time has passed now, I decided to revise this and have another look.

    So as stated before in the previous post. We had multiple domains and used certain link profiles pointing to each domain:

    Blog comment Blasts
    Social Signals
    Web2.0s
    Directories
    High PR links
    No backlinks made at all just content
    Press releases
    Bookmarking
    And then we used some mixed link profiles to see if what worked well and survived and what got annihilated:

    Social signals with High PR links and a few Web2.0s (all Tier1 no Tier2 built)
    Blog Comments, web 2.0s, press releases, social bookmarks and some social signals.
    Directories with Bookmarking and Blog comments
    Press releases with High PR links and Directories
    Social signals with High PR(From blog networks)
    What survived and what has been condemned?
    On the whole only 3 of the domains are still ranking well:

    Social signals with High PR(From blog networks)
    No backlinks made at all just content
    High PR links
    This is more or less what I was actually expecting from the case study. Getting links from blog networks is a very strong addition to your profile as long as you know what you are doing and alongside social signals. As I expected the domain with no links made to it is still alive but doing a lot better than I thought it would.

    No linkbuilding, just content
    The website that was just based around content and had more content uploaded than the rest was relevant and high quality content. This site is currently ranking very high and sitting at #8 for the keyword that we targeted. It's not a very high competitive keyword but am still beating domains that have been linkbuilding.

    Social signals with High PR
    This domain is currently ranking 2-3 positions higher than the High PR only domain sitting at a steady #21. This has been a steady decline over the long period of time as the social signals were only placed on the site once at the beginning of the case study. This sums up the fact that social signals are a good boost for ranking but only for a short period of time before having to be refreshed to regain the boost.

    High PR
    This domain is now ranked only 2-3 positions lower than the domain that included social signals compared to in the beginning were it was around 10-15 places lower. From what I can tell this is based on Google using the social signals as a strong ranking factor and as time has passed the other domain has ranked back down to meet with this one.

    What do these results mean?
    It's still hard to give a definitive explanation of what this penguin update did due to needing a much larger sample size, but from what I can see Google are still respecting the contextual links from high authorities domains (Blog Networks). They are obviously still loving content rich websites that add value and with no dodgy link building, with social signals looking stronger than I have ever seen.

    As for the rest, from now on I believe it is going to be mandatory that Tier 1, Tier 2 links and possibly even Tier 3 links are going to have to be at least manually spun and any link building done to the site will have to be done carefully. This is in the case of a white/greyhat site, there are still a lot of ways to game Google and get your site ranking very highly for competitive terms with blackhat churn and burn methods but these sites will die fast.

    I have been hit by penguin, what do I do?
    Over the past week or two I have cleared most of my sites and got them ranking again. The only way to really shake the Algo penalty is to remove the links that got you the penalty in the first place. I have done this to my own sites and to some clients sites that have reached out to me, if you are not sure what you are doing and need help with this feel free to contact me: contact@seostyx.com
     
  19. PrinceVisi

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    I don't know about all you guys, but for me keeping things simpler is the best way how to do things.

    I believe that if you have created a simple diverse link portfolio, you don't need to diverse it anymore, you just need the quality PR links...
     
  20. gavinb

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    but you must be using blog networks etc. and it's often easy to disavow 100 links but think about those people who use gsa or senuke, UD on their site. It's much better to move on rather than be wasting time with it
     
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