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[Penguin] Adult site owners, how are you recovering from Penguin?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by reallife, May 5, 2012.

  1. reallife

    reallife Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Obviously, adult site owners don't have many of the same options that mainstream site owners do, when it comes to reversing the effects of penguin.
    If you assume (as I do) that this is mainly a backlinking penalty - how are you dealing with the problem? In my case, a ton of xrumer/SB/dripable links can't just be taken down and the amount of time it would take to dilute existing links with good-quality backlinks is enormous. (I have a ton of previously top-10 adult sites that now have been hit with +500 penalties.)
    How are you addressing the Penguin if you have hard-hit adult sites?
     
  2. Chicilikit

    Chicilikit Senior Member

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    Still working on it, but it is hard. I have been researching some sites that remained on top and none of them has better content then me. I have lot of blogs and those sites that are above me sometimes are usually subdomains with very little content on big general porn sites. Its like google really hates small guys and small webs. Maybe even blogs literally, coz I do not see almost any time any blogs above me, that quite scares me, because 99% of my sites are wordpress blogs. Especially dailymotion is doing now really great and just page with video with some solo model is on the first spot. Hell, how can these simple pages outrank blogs that are few years old with ton of handwritten content? This makes me really desperate and like that I know really nothing about SEO, because these results just dont make sense.
     
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    try to add some content and doing web 2.0 blasts
     
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    I am also running into this issue... so I bought the .net and .org of my .com emd and I am going to make them blogs with no adult content but of course linking to my .com and see how that goes. My .com gets a lot of real social media over 1k in real google+1's, tweets, facebook etc etc. in just a couple months.

    I was screwed by google on (traffic tanked) 4/11/12 after receiving the unnatural link email on 3/22 on one of my subdomains,com... so I dumped the subdomains closed webmaster tools, waited a few days and opened up a new webmaster tools only to find out that the penalty carried over to my main .com domain ouch! I went from #1 above wiki to no where to be found for a ton of keywords that applied to my niche. My site did very well netting me easy high 6figs with over 50k uniques every day, low bounce rate for adult of 25% and time on site over 2min.

    I have removed over 5000 "spammy links" that I bought from a banner addon BHW (I am not going to say which one, sorry), done some redirecting and added tons of new text/content and still have not seen any movement in google, though I am #1 still for all my terms in Bing and Yahoo.

    I will not give up and never surrender Google bitches! ;)

    Cheers Mates!
     
  6. reallife

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    Thanks for the responses. I figured I wasn't the only one who got wiped out in adult - with mediocre sites and other stuff that is way lesser quality moving up - but the struggle in adult is a lot worse and my keywords were already very competive.
    I'm starting by varying anchor text as much as I can, in the links that I bought/traded/own - afraid to 301 anything because I'm sure the penalties will just carry over. After that, going to tread lightly and give it a little time, I think; I have some thin one-page sites that moved up to (or stayed on) page 1 after Penguin, so I may try to give them a little love instead of whacking at my big sites.
    On the positive side, one of the penalized sites moved up from 500+ to 96 today; it's probably just a dance, but it's the first movement of any sort I've seen (other than down, of course lol).
    Adult folks, keep it coming :)
     
  7. scottx1995

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    Hey when it comes to adult sites.. its not just about the penalty for backlink techniques.. its also about google s adult filter.

    they are basically not showing adult/porn sites for keywords that are neutral.

    like sex,xxx, pussy etc., all these keywords used to show porn sites previously now those sites are not anywhere in the top 10.

    ofcourse i see them do some testing by throwin in a porn site at no. 4 or 5 with others being main stream links.

    so the penalty you have received may not just be because of the link building techniques also check which keywords you dropped for and see what google shows in their place instead of your site. i bet its main stream garbage results as in non porn /adult sites.

    they are doing this to eventually allow adwords biddin on these keywords they have started that already when you check for "sex" in US you can see tons of adult site bidders for adwords.

    obviously if you are going to show regular free tube sites.. for a search like "sex' no one is going to click on their adwords ads.
    google wants high ctr on them so they show garbage blogs, wiki entries on sex education lol and allow adwords ads for those.
     
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  8. lelando

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    Guess im lucky little to no effect on my site. rankings keeps improving,keywords I rank for increases and everything seems to go well with my site.
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  9. lelando

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    I noticed the facebook and twitter shares do not bring much if any ranking improvements. the stumble upon and g+ is different tho whenever I get stumble upon and g+ shares I notice a big difference in rankings after less than 48 hours untitled.png
     
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    Yeah, I see nothing from fb/twitter either, haven't tried stumbleupon for adult, and have always stayed away from g+ for the obvious reasons. Maybe it's time to try them.
     
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    I've noticed this too for many of the big keywords, but I target ones that are the next level down on the pecking list and those are strictly penalties, +500 or so. No question both are in play when it comes to the porn, sex keywords of the world.
     
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    my EMD (with -'s for spaces) dropped from position 1 on a number of keywords.

    i used mostly scrapebox/bookmarking along with linkspun link exchanges to get my rank in the first place so i'm going to need to work on getting some more varied links.

    you might be right about the mainstream sites outranking as the sites above me are mainstream with slightly dodgy categories.
     
  13. reallife

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    Me too, my hesitation, though, is that the sites ranking higher than me all have significantly fewer total links. A LOT less. Do you see the same thing, and are you worried about adding more links to the mix?
     
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    i'm not sure what i'm going to do really, probably just keep building backlinks. I didn't really drop that far down its just these mainstream sites seem to have popped up ahead of me. Hopefully as my sites have really good stats and should regain their position over time.

    i have hopes google make some more changes soon.
     
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    Resurrecting this thread after 45 days - any adult folks have anything new to report in battling the Penguin?
     
  16. Chicilikit

    Chicilikit Senior Member

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    Well, I cannot report anything good, all my sites are still very low, even lower then before. Looks like google is winning this, coz if something will not happen in next few weeks, I will have to find another job. Well only good is that I managed to get some new sites to very nice positions with just links from youtube videos, but I'm not able to create enough of such sites in such short period of time to make enough money for living. For me it looks really impossible to resurrect my old sites without money, so I can only just wait and pray that google will one day stop hating them. If I had money I would probably invest it in some huge social media services, that seems working...
     
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    Rank them the same way you rank any other, non adult site. I know it's a lot harder finding places to leave links, but there are places. You just have to look hard enough.
     
  18. reallife

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    Very true, but my question was whether people had any luck recovering adult sites from penguin.
     
  19. durjoy

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    we had luck against penguin. all the sites are recovered and ranking better than it was before penguin came into effect . Number one position in 1,650,000 Exact Match keywords .

    Shoot me PM, if anyone need advice with penguin.
     
  20. s7evin

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    What's penguin?