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Penalty without notice in WMT?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by MrSandMan, Sep 2, 2013.

  1. MrSandMan

    MrSandMan Registered Member

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    Just curious if this has happened to anyone else? I have a client who is having an issue in a drop in rankings and they sent a reconsideration request despite not getting a warning in WMTs. Google responded back stating the webspam team didn?t find their site a spam site but it was due to the latest angoryhtm most likely and said the recent update did include punishing sites with low quality content and/or unrelevant link building.


    I've also noticed a huge drop in rank on my personal blog. It went from 2800 daily google traffic to a mere 67 daily. That is alarming, especially since I didn't get one notice in WMTs saying there is a problem. And to top it off, my site is aged and was an authority in the niche... just fell off after the farmer update and has been declining ever since. I figured it would come back if I just keep posting high quality content that goes viral and build niche related backlinks... but two years later it is only getting worse.
     
  2. mikie46

    mikie46 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    You dont always get notifications from WHT. In fact, 9 times out of 10 you will never see a warning. I too went from 600 users a day to 100 over the course of a few months but that was because i removed 30 or 40 articles from a blog network i thought may have been a results of one of my keywords not ranking. So at least i know why my rankings dropped. Generally G doesnt tell you.
     
  3. KarenS

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    I got penguined with no notice of unnatural links or any other notice. But you could see from The panguin tool that the traffic drop coincided exactly with the penguin update. So yes its entirely possible to get an algorithmic penalty with no WMT notice. Figure out exactly what update caused your traffic drop and then work on fixing it based on what update did cause it.
     
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    On the last penguin update one of my sites went into oblivion with no notice what so ever. I don't think that will ever recover.
     
  5. MrSandMan

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    First off, thanks to everyone who posted. It's nice to hear other people's experience.

    Karen, what is the penguin tool? My rank made it's first massive drop during the first Farmer update when they went after Ezine and blog networks I think. Funny, I never built links to blog networks, but I did build links on ezine and other mass article directory submissions...

    And back then, those strategies really DOMINATED for ranking a website.
     
  6. KarenS

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    Its called the panguin tool and it works with your Google analytics traffic data and overlays googles updates so you can see when a penalty occurred. I'm new so can't post links so search Google for "panguin tool" with the misspelling
     
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  8. MrSandMan

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    Okay I used that before.. or something similar. It shows I got hit on just about every update the past two years. lol

    Why isn't Wordpress/org getting hit in penguin? They do exactly what Google is looking for... footer site-wide links that are dofllow with the same anchor-text over and over again...
     
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    you can get algo penalty without notice