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PBNs vs Money $ites

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by AceCanoe, Mar 14, 2017.

  1. AceCanoe

    AceCanoe Registered Member

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    Yo!! So I plan on creating multiple money sites. I already have a couple PBNs but haven't touched them yet.

    This might sound dumb but I'd just like to have somebody clarify how to do this correctly and the safest way possible.

    Would I have to create or buy "XX/XXX" amount of expired domains/PBNs PER each money site? So just have 1 article on each PBN for my money site for each PBN? Or could I link back to multiple/different money sites on my PBN?

    For example:

    *PBN 1 -> Money Site 1
    *PBN 1 -> Money Site 2 etc

    Or to be safer would you recommend:

    *PBN 1 -> Money Site 1
    *PBN 2 - > Money Site 2

    And post relevant content for the rest of PBN 1 and PBN 2 (without any linking to money sites)?

    Cause if I was going to have over 50 money sites, I would have to build just a network (PBNs) being dedicated just to one money site and so fourth?

    How would you do this so that everything works and stays on the safe side?
    Thanks in advanced.
     
  2. Mr Dingle

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    Personally I wouldn't recommend linking 1 PBN to more that 1 money site, although you'll need to link out to a few authority sites
    I would think the best people to ask are @Nargil and @Leith
     
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    Everyone says 1 per, but then people seem quite happy buying pbn links off the marketplace... lol.

    It all depends on the risk you're willing to take. It's certainly a lot riskier for obvious reasons to have multiple sites on a site pbn. You're basically putting all your eggs in one basket.

    If you're linking multiple sites from a pbn, especially in niches that are completely different, you're also leaving yourself wide open for people finding your entire network by searching for the terms together.
     
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    I only link out to one of my money sites per PBN as of now. Maybe someone with more knowledge on PBNs can chime in.
     
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    I have no idea who would invest huge amount of money in expired domain, different hosting, and content just to link to one money site. If you are building your PBN correctly, then you are investing thousands of $$$ in it!

    PBN can easily link to multiple money websites without any problem or the Marketplace would be non-existence. Actually, I link several times from my PBN to same money website.

    If you are over paranoid, then you should spend your effort in hiding your tracks in your money website. Don't host all of them in the same webmaster account, use same google adword or analytics ID...etc. Then in eyes of google or anyone else, you are linking to completely different websites

    Check out any website in first page in google, you will find backlinks number is 5 - 10X the number of domains. This means, it's very natural to send many backlinks from same websites.

    So, now, websites are only allowed to link to one website!!??!!
     
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    I would recommend to use one PBN to one money site. Always prefer to be safer side. Don't take any risk.
     
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    As per my opinion, the Second one is better than first one.So you can try to use 1 PBN to 1 money site.
     
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    1:1 PBN to money site is the best imo :)
     
  9. xReminisce

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    Regardless of trying to be on the safe side or not
    you should never have them all on the same google adword/anaytics/WMT/stat counter/etc etc accounts to begin with.
    It is strictly ONE per PBN. and NEVER shared with money sites.
    That alone is already a footprint right for google to slap.

    Bottom line
    ANYTHING type of account/referral/tracking/whatever shared between PBN sites are a footprint itself.

    Like @Mr Dingle mention, your PBN needs to link out to other non-competition authority sites aswell. & i vouch for @Nargil, expert when it comes to these things. He personally taught me alot ! :D

    As for the question OP asked.
    It depends on your PBN.

    How is it built, is it small, counting a a few articles, or is it massive, big PBN with hundreds and thousands of content.
    Is the PBN all on same IP or same network of hosting?
    Are the money sites all in relevant-to-similar niches to your money site.
    Are your moneysites all using same networks (all adsense sites, all amazon, shoptify etc etc)
    are your moneysites all hosted on the same hosting ? on shared hosting ?
    WHOIS on your PBN/moenysites are they all from same country/similiar towns/suburbs etc. Or i s it spreadout widewide/nationwide.

    Lots of questions are left unanswered to give you a proper answer.
     
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  10. laur.laurix

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    u can link multiple money sites from one pbn but if ur pbn gets slapped all linked moneysites will suffer.
     
  11. Nargil

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    1 PBN = 1 money site - Especially if your money sites are in multiple niches. The niche relevancy regarding the content on the website is a must have imo and it was, in my opinion, one of the main factors why so many public networks are getting ripped apart. You have 50 articles, each one in different niche, 50 OBL. The footprints can't be bigger than that.

    There are ways how you can work with multiple money sites, sure, but for that you will need really high end domains in, at the very least $500+ price range, not to mention at least a couple of hundred articles. It's the best possible approach to create your sites to look real. Like really super real, not "real" what people here consider to be fine. For that you would still have to retain the contextual relevancy, so if you have one site about weight loss product and another about kid's toys, then this won't really work well.

    Also, linking to multiple money sites from same PBN will make it very very hard to sell.
     
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    Pbn to money site is good :) a lot of good company's got that aswell
     
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    Any problem here buddy? :)
     
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    Yes, the problem is the idea that you'd pay a lot of money for domains and only use them for one site. I agree with you on the niche relevancy thing so... build another site in the niche. Using 1 PBN for only one site is a huge waste of cash.
     
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    Yeh, that would be the best approach. Though with $10-$20 domains there's not to much space to maneuver. Nor too much firepower to work with. And the more money sites you target per domain, the more OBL you have to throw up to hide them. Doable with medium and high-end domains, but not as much with cheap ones.
     
  17. xReminisce

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    Don't see how that is a "huge waste of cash"
    You're paying roughly $10~30 per PBN give or take for PBN services (with tens or even hundreds of other "money site" links)
    While, you maintain your own site, with just ONE "money site" link. Virtually slightly more expensive.
    But aslong you dont screw up, you are footprint free and pretty much as safe as you can be.

    So please, elaborate a bit more, on how much this is a waste of cash?
     
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    Lol, So, if you have website with 10 articles and each article need 10 backlinks, you gonna need 1 hundred domain just for this micro website :D The effort you gonna put in link building is 10x the effort in money site

    Great way to spend your time (Y)
     
  19. Nargil

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    Or learn how to structure your site properly.
     
  20. KHer0

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    Don't bother with me , I am talking about the great replies in this thread

    So, instead of having links sent to all articles on website, I should use interlinking instead and send links to few of them?