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PBN's How strict should you be?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by cashmoney404, Aug 25, 2014.

  1. cashmoney404

    cashmoney404 Registered Member

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    When using a Private Blog Network how strict do you need to be? For Example..

    • Should the expired domain name look presentable and match your niche?
    • Should the content you put on the expired domain look the same or similar to the way back machines or can you take a vague domain an turn it into something that is similar to your niche?
    • What type of PA/DA do you need? (it seems like 25+ DA is near impossible to find)
    • How many sites do you need on your network to make a difference?

    (edit) more questions

    • Would you buy a domain that previously had ads on it? What if you could tell an affiliate marketer owned it? Would you buy it as long as it didn't have spammy backlinks?
    • What type of backlink profile do you search for(other than spam)? Is something that has most of it's links from one site bad?
    • Do you skip over sites that have 1000's of backlinks?
     
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  2. tony_d

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    1) Expired domains in my case are usually totally irrelevant to my money sites. It's the content that makes them relevant.
    2) Per the above - I use new content, relevant to the site that I'm working on ranking
    3) I don't pay much attention to DA/PA, they're easy to fake. That said, if all else is equal, DA20> is my preference
    4) It depends entirely on your money site keywords. As few as 2 or 3 sites can make a big difference in a non-competitive niche, but you may need dozens in a more fought-for niche.
     
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    >It is not a hard n fast rule that it must match. If it matches then it's well n good. You will get more juice due to relevancy factor
    >If you post and make the site as it was before expiring you will retain its old da pa pr etc 90%. If you change it then chances are you may lose everything
    >The more pa da u get the more link juice. But this pa da thing is over rated. I can get any domain to 50-70 pa da easily jus by gsa blast. What matters is what type of authority sites are backlinking. If a site has 10 da pa but has backlinks from techcrucnh n such top 500 popular sites i wud go for it
    >It again depends how strong ur network is.
     
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  4. cashmoney404

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    I just don't understand how you could have something with a weird name like spiderman2015.com, put cell phone content on it and then link to your cell phone niche. Just seems a bit odd.

    Another question about strictness.. will you buy a domain that has been owned by someone who had ads on their site? or someone that was an affiliate... (as long as the backlinks arnt spam)
     
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    Indeed. Very little of what G does makes sense. But then - I only care what works, not what I think is 'right'.

    And, I can tell you that taking a totally irrelevant domain and making it relevant to your money site by way of content, and then linking to your money site, certainly does work.
     
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    1. No.
    2. You can repurpose an expired domain.
    3. 20+ is adequate.
    4. As many sites as you can build. The higher the number of sites, the better the network.
     
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    Here are my answers for it:



    • Should the expired domain name look presentable and match your niche? Not at all.
    • Should the content you put on the expired domain look the same or similar to the way back machines or can you take a vague domain an turn it into something that is similar to your niche? I dont mind it usually. The only thing I check is, it should not be redirect in the past.
    • What type of PA/DA do you need? (it seems like 25+ DA is near impossible to find) 25 is good to go!
    • How many sites do you need on your network to make a difference? depends upon lots of factors. Hard to say!
     
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  8. Jouster

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    1.) I only go with .com .net or .org - doesn't matter if it wasn't previously in your niche, you re-purpose it towards your niche2.) Nope, just make sure you've got really good content that is relevant to your target site3.) Personally I only look at DA20+ plus a few other metrics of real authority (not spammed authority)4.) You can get good serp movement with just a handful of strong domains, I'm talking like 10-20, and it's a LOT less risky than having 100s of weak spammed domains too..
     
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  9. cashmoney404

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    What other metrics do you look into?
     
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    High Trust flow, low citation flow. Use web archive to find out if the site was spammy or a part of another network in the past. Use link checking tools like majesticseo to find out if they have real quality links.
     
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    It's best to find expired domain names that are link to websites that have authority, a domain name with 5 high authority back links, is way better then a domain name with thousands of low level links