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PBNs Foot print - Same Class A IP Address?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jennyxzxz, Mar 25, 2016.

  1. jennyxzxz

    jennyxzxz Junior Member

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    Hi guys, I currently building around 3-5 PBNs for my money site. Some of my PBNs are local tld. And i seems hard to find several cheap local webhosting company. So will it be a footprint if my a few of my domains have the same Class A IP address? Even though some are from different hosting company?

    Since my country is quite a small. Is it common for different local webhosting server where they have the same class A IP address? or?

    Will it be a footprint? because really quite a number of the local web shared hosting companies have the same class A IP address.. I am really confused in these aspect..

    Thank you.
     
  2. Nerevar

    Nerevar Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    There are less than 200 A block IPs available for the whole world, so no.
     
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    tiiberius Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    When you host too many PBN sites on the same IP and link out to the same money site. You are running at risk.

    Be careful when using multiple cheap hosts from the same country. Chances are they are all just resellers of 1-2 big guys. Which means you are actually putting all of your sites on the same physical severs.

    There is no problem hosting part of your network on the well-known international hosts like Namecheap (US servers) etc for diversity.

    PBN doesn't necessarily have to be hosted in specific country to give you a boost in that country.
     
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  4. jennyxzxz

    jennyxzxz Junior Member

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    But it will be more "real" if those tld PBNs hosted in local server? Not really sure about that.. I have 1 PBN hosted in US server but it seems that it does not boost my money site.. not sure if that's the reason...
     
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    I agree with #Nerevar, But Please make sure with the unique C class IP's which matters at point of hosting PBN's.

    Say for example, if you own 5 PBN's

    - each domain hosted on different C class IP's - Perfect!
    - each domain hosted on same A class IP's - Also Perfect!
     
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  6. tiiberius

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    Yes it will be more "real" like you say but it's not a requirement. Outside of country hosting isn't reason to receive no boost, maybe smaller boost but not none.

    When you link out from PBN website and there is no boost it's usually one of the reasons below:
    - website is weak and ranking keyword hard... it simple doesn't have power to boost rank for the keyword
    - website is toxic... it has a penalty
    - wrong anchor text choice... usually happens with exact match anchors texts when you over-optimize your over all ratio
    - low patience... sometimes you just have to give it more time
     
  7. starki

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    True for class A, but with just a difference in class C, it's risky business. Especially the so called "SEO Hosts" often use successive class C IPs and even recycle them when a customers cancels his contract (often because a network was busted).

    Really depends on the host, but I'd be careful with a larger network and class C variation only...that's one of the factors that broke BMRs (Build My Rank, popular public network till 2012, eradicated by Google) neck for example.
     
  8. arpitagarwal82

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    As you have mentioned that your country is small, so same A class would not be a problem.
    Also 3-5 sites are very small PBN (I am talking in terms of quantity. Qualitatively speaking it can have very good results if done right.), so you may mix them up with some other backlinks.
    Buy some guest posts and web 2.0 and you will be good.
     
  9. accelerator_dd

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    I think you have it backwards. Classes go as AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD so if the IP addresses are 127.0.0.1, 127.0.0.2 etc, that is same C class since only D is unique.

    For a local site though, if you are building a local PBN with expired domains of local businesses, you can use the same 1-2 hosts since that makes sense - most of those local hosts have the kind of advertising to get all the local shops on board, so it wouldn't be unnatural.
     
  10. pakman

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    Similar A class ips should be no.problem since ur using local tlds this would make those sites look more legit. The bigger concern for you would be having all high quality sites linking to your site being the same tld. I would try getting atleast one PBN being not local tld just to diversify.