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PBN - Using A Site More Than Once?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Moobs, Jul 6, 2015.

  1. Moobs

    Moobs Regular Member

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    Is there anything wrong with using a PBN site more than once to point to the same site? Let's say I write an article targeting one word and have it point to the $ site. A few weeks go by and I've published a few regular articles since, but I decide to write an article on a completely different subject targeting a different keyword pointing to the same $ site. Is this considered bad practice, is there a downside?
     
  2. Panther28

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    You arn't really going to raise the red flag if you do this, but most of us from what i read, and myself, are just happy with 1 link per PBN. There will be people that break that rule, but maybe the rest of us smoke to much weed :)

    Ive guest posted to sites a couple of times before, and they obviously have 2-3 links to my domains, but are they my PBN? no. Why wouldn't your site be just like that too?

    What is your OBL vs links to your site ratio on your articles?
     
  3. Moobs

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    Usually have outgoing links every couple articles on my PBN sites. Generally outgoing links refer to bigger sites like Facebook documentation or Microsoft for example. The few smaller sites the PBN links to are my projects, but those are few and far between.

    My thought is if you have all this time invested into building a PBN why not get more than one article out of the site as long as it's not going to have a huge impact on your other links. I'm not saying to go overboard, but like your said will 2-3 links going to the same site over a period of time really make a difference? Especially if the articles are unrelated and target different words.
     
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    Your call dude, i think you'll happily get away with it for one site, but your playing dangerously imo if you do it on lots of your pbn sites.

    I suppose it's easier if you use a naked link at the end saying this was submitted by "your website" so it looks like a genuine guest post, rather than obvious anchor text links if that's what your doing. I don't think anyone will really give you a definite recommendation though, it's your call....
     
  5. Moobs

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    Okay thanks, I think I may try to do 2 links on one or two sites. I currently have 10 sites in the network and I'm pretty focused on getting ranked for a single keyword atm with low competition. In my position would you normally write a couple articles at a time and see how it effects the rank, instead of using every site and then being forced to add new ones to the network?

    I'm still new to all this so I'm not sure what the best approach is to best utilize the PBN or how big to make it.
     
  6. BassTrackerBoats

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    For max power you are better served using one link from your PBN to one site and building out the PBN with content and decent backlinks.

    No sense rushing into anything there... do the one link, build the PBN up, on and off site, and see where you are in a month or so.
     
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    I would go with 1 link.
     
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    As long as you are consistently linking out to other sites not just your target money sites, there's nothing but paranoia preventing you from using the same PBN site to link to a few articles on your money site. After all, whats' the point of running a PBN if you're not going to use it.

    But from the sound of your question and follow-up statements your biggest issue is going to be the fact that you're chasing 1 keyword, and probably have optimized your site for that keyword and using that keyword in your PBN posts and homepages (correct me if I'm wrong).... now that is a footprint; that is something that sets off flags and can get you an algo slap or worse a manual review.

    Tread carefully.
     
  9. madoctopus

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    You can have multiple OBL from PBN sites towards same money site (MS). In order to avoid any potential red flags, make sure you link out to other sites that are not yours too. And building many links from same incoming domain doesnt increase SEO much. Also, avoid linking from all PBN sites to multiple MS as that can get the sites flagged. In other words if you have a PBN of 100 sites and 10 MS, linking to all 10 MS from each of the 100 PBN sites IS a risk.
     
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  10. Moobs

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    A lot of great information here. Thank you all.
     
  11. phpbuilt

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    Google will only consider the link from your PBN as powerful if it thinks there is no ownership connection between that and your money site. Google will be testing if you're the owner of the PBN site through various footprints, like if they're hosted by the same company, same registrant, share the same DNS ... these are all footprints.

    Having that site link to your money site more than once is a likely footprint showing that there's a relationship there that goes beyond someone spontaneously linking to you because your content is great (which is the only type of link Google wants to give credit for). Google likely becomes more suspicious, "Why is this blog linking multiple times to this site? Perhaps both are owned by the same person?"

    Instead, take your first link from your PBN to your money site and make that link more powerful. Create another page on that PBN site and link to the page (in content) that links to your money site. Google is less suspicious of inner-site linking, and it flows more link juice to the one link you're getting from that PBN site.
     
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    Can't count how many times the most popular ass licking sock puppet dick sucking "white hat SEO" blogs have linked to Matt Cutts' own blog.

    PS. Just make it look natural. If there'd be a reason for your PBN to link twice to a site, then do it. Else, don't.
     
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  13. nishan

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    I agree. Best to look natural and don't overdo it.
     
  14. madoctopus

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    Just because I forgot to say... the above is one of the reasons most PBNs selling links get banned.
    Nothing like quoting yourself :)