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PBN Question: Is Google Removing Attributes of Expired Domains?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by fratermaui, Feb 6, 2016.

  1. fratermaui

    fratermaui Registered Member

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    Hi guys,
    I'm currently doing a course on building a PBN.
    Have the investment capital for it, however is it even worth getting into now?
    Is Google removing the Trust Flow/DA/PA etc attributes that belonged to the old site?
    And then starting the newly re-registered domain afresh as a new site with zero scores?
    Any insights welcome, thanks, Sam
     
  2. asap1

    asap1 BANNED BANNED Jr. VIP

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    Yes its worth the investment.

    No google is not lowering the power of expired domains.
     
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  3. laur.laurix

    laur.laurix Power Member

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    Where are u doing this PBN course? Are they teaching it in schools now? I hope u didnt pay some pbn guru. To answer ur question: if the domain gets deleted and sits there long enough for G to notice it it will lose some value. But if the domain has good links the juice will flow and it will help u rank. So find and buy domains with good link profiles deleted or not.
     
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  4. fratermaui

    fratermaui Registered Member

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    cheers guys, I see
    I am probably paranoid as f9ck, BUT, I even am trying to get different 'made by' on the images and logos/banners for each property, as I think soon Google will even check stuff like that, I may be wrong and paranoid, I just don't want to get slapped.
    Thanks for taking time to answer :)
     
  5. LeanLow

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    If that's the case I wouldn't have ranked hundreds of pages for hundreds of 1st page terms.
     
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  6. zebrahat

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    Google doesn't control authority metrics it didn't create (DA/PA comes from MOZ, TF/CF comes from Majestic SEO). So as long as those sites don't get bought out by G, those metrics will remain accessible to the public to estimate the authority of pages and domains.
     
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  7. robocom

    robocom Newbie

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    No, the only thing Google can do is dex-index your PBNs. Get them as they do indeed work.
     
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    For starters DA/PA/TF etc are all 3rd part stats and not Google based so they will never be dropped, however I do not believe that is what you are really asking anyway.

    If what you are asking is will Google remove any history from the domain I really don't see it doing so anytime soon, to do so would mean instead of keeping track of what sites link where they would also have to be keeping check on when sites began linking to other sites and how that has changed along with the different whois records for every domain. I believe this would be such a huge undertaking and result in extensive increases to their server farm.

    What they are doing and what they will very likely continue to do so for the far future is to keep an eye out for common footprints among sites within a PBN and then penalise where needed, this is much easier to do from their point of view.

    As long as you are pro-active in mixing up everything and leaving no obvious footprints in the whois info, domain registrar, anything on-site and things like that you should be fine and the domains will not lose their value.
     
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  9. dotgirish

    dotgirish Registered Member

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    PBNs are still working , and it should continue to work. What you are going to learn is how to get expired domains and how to select them , how to protect them. If you are able to safeguard them from de-indexing , you are all good.
     
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    I swear there's no need for you to buy a pbn course. What a waste! instead use that money for building pbn. You can check how to build one in this forum.
     
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  11. fratermaui

    fratermaui Registered Member

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    cheers everyone!! this has been one of the most extensive set of answers I've got on here. Great to see BHW is still the best place for community and sharing ideas :)
     
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    What is the PBN course? Grab refund and check here, there are plenty of great threads on the topic here on BHW.
     
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    As long as google counts backlinks to rank a website and as long as your expired domain have inbound links, you will rank with expired domain PBNs.
     
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    Good Reading keep up the good work in the quest to take over the world.
     
  15. SEO Dave

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    There's no doubt that PBNs are very much in Google's crosshairs.

    It wouldn't at all surprise me if they are able to spot obvious PBN footprints and reset the domains PR, without needing a manual check.

    They're going to get much better at it as well.

    The only way for PBNs to survive in the long run is to build them out as real sites.

    I think that all the public sellers of PBN links on forums such as this one will be finished in the next few years, and a lot of websites will go with them.