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Pbn penalty is a myth?!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by 420friendly, Oct 24, 2015.

  1. 420friendly

    420friendly Regular Member

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    Here is a question for ya... I always hear about sites getting penalized both algorithmicly and manually for "PBN" linking which from what I understand is interlinking sites you own to pass link juice to your other sites owned. If that is the case how does sites like The Chive who plain as day in the header links do follow sitewide links to all the other sites in their network... another example is PMC network that is with Hollywood Life in the footer they link do follow to their network of sites thus passing juice across all sites. Another is The Awl in the footer they interlink site wide all their sites passing juice across the entire network... This is just a few but there is tons of hugely popular authority sites doing this. What's the difference if you do it? How can Google possibly penalize you for the same thing popular sites do as well?
     
  2. Kralj187

    Kralj187 Senior Member

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    Because popular sites have protection, link bank manager have protection...
     
  3. accelerator_dd

    accelerator_dd Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    When you have a site that is not updated and should be (blog), nto linked to at all from any other place (forums, blogs) and instantly having a ton of authority links - that can look fishy. Even more so when all your links are from the same spintax and content on the same subject as the moneysite.

    It just looks unnatural. I am sure you wouldn't up for manual review if you didnt only rely on PBN but used some diversity links as well.

    Also, sometimes competitors report you directly, so you get spotted that way.
     
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  4. SeoWrecker

    SeoWrecker Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Yes, most probably a myth. It all comes down to the strategy you use for link building. Huge diversification is the key here.
     
  5. tg01

    tg01 Regular Member

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    The way in which you have described it is a myth.
    Having a network of related websites owned by the same company, declaring and linking to each would be fine. Just take a look at the P**N Hub network the links to the rest of the network does not cause a penalty.
    PBN links should appear natural, the networks appear natural, the content needs to appear to add value so that users would visit and use the website. A penalty would be the same as any other, a lack of diversity, direct match anchors, poor quality content, etc.
     
  6. ThopHayt

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    Nobody knows exactly what causes an algo penalty to pop up. It may well be that being a "big site" protects you to a larger degree from the penalty. Meaning if your site has enough authority and traffic that Google may give you a longer leash than a little site 6 months old with suspicious looking links. Secondly you DON'T know if Google isn't or IS penalizing that site you mentioned, one method of algo "penalty" is to simply IGNORE a link. So you can't assume. Nor can you do something just because a large authoritative site gets away with it. Can you get away with the same shit that a celebrity gets away with? Can you punch your wife and drive drunk and keep your job? No. So don't go thinking you can get away with what a famous site can either.
     
  7. archon10

    archon10 BANNED BANNED

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    How do you know they don't have some kind of penalty?
     
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  8. starki

    starki Power Member

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    They don't have a penalty. It's basically a huge difference if you interlink a bunch of high quality authority sites that are very useful for visitors or interlinks a bunch of domains that only exist to manipulate the SERPs. PBNs don't exist for visitors, they are made for SEO and that's the problem for Google, not the interlinking itself.

    Quod licet iovi, non licet bovi!
     
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  9. 420friendly

    420friendly Regular Member

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    So what most of you are saying is:

    1. As long as you say (Our Network of Sites: blablasite | blablasite | blablasite | blablasite | blablasite) - This is not considered a no no with Google manual review gods....?

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    2. If you own a real authority site you can basically get away with pretty much whatever... as I agree because Break(dot)com is doing all kinds of linking internal to their other sites including adult owned by the same people that operate the site.

    Damn I want to be in the good ol boys club to lol
     
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