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PBN Network, domain quality how to find out.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by RuthSam, Sep 18, 2014.

  1. RuthSam

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    Hi,

    I bought my first domain including a website from some BHW and delivery and quality seems so far so good.

    Here are quick data of the domain:
    PR 3
    DA 29
    PA 39
    2025 Established Links and 77 Root domains

    Above is according to MOZ Siteexplorer.

    What do you think, is this a high quality domain / website I have bought or what should I look at to be 100% sure that this is the real thing?

    I'm asking because I read alot of threads here on BHW about PBN and most say that it should only be maybe 15 - 20 high quality links that are pointing to such a domain to ensure a long lasting result rather than thousands of links ??

    Any input would be much appreciated.
     
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    Check Trust flow, Mozrank.
    Anchor text..
    Use ahrefs and check the Refering domain.

    Can you pm me which service you use?
     
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    what about archive.org ? check links in ahrefs.
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    Like prab said checking archive.org is a must! Also you need to check the individual backlinks pointing to the website. All other metrics are pretty much useless.
     
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    check also in web archive about history of the expired domain.
    it can be already used as network - this is very bad
    it can have penalty also
    check the beginning date how it was and the very last day - if any huge changes there means no need to buy it
     
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    Thanks a lot for all your input, I'm going through all this now will post back here once I'm done.
     
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    Check all the backlinks and the sites that are giving this backlinks.
    Your metrics are good but if it's spam site are useless.

    Look at the waybackmachine and check if there were 301 redirects, this can fake the PR and the actual power can be the less.
     
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    Find out how many times it has been dropped, the type of content that existed on the site before it expired using archive.org, it's ahrefs rank, citation flow, and trust flow. Also, analyse it's link profile to make sure it doesn't contain any spammy links. On the surface, it looks like a high quality domain.
     
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    You mean how the links build to the site have developed from start to beginning? If so I just checked with ahrefs.com and this is as following:
    domain reg. 2013
    had 200 pages referring and aprox 15 domains linking.
    From March 2013 to Aug 2014 it was the same and thereafter more than 500 domains started to link to the domain - seems some sort of link building have been done to boost the domain.

    Today according to ahrefs the data is like:
    573 backlinks and 164 Referring domains
    Domain Rank is 43 and URL Rank 12 (pretty bad)
     
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    Have you checked the anchor texts of the backlinks?
    And the backlinks' topics? The backlinks profile have to be clean and not abused/spammed with chinese letters (only an example)
     
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    Whats the trust flow and citation flow? The Pa DA metrics look very good though/
     
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    You can pm me the link and ill check the url if you want. I have a majestic seo subscription.

    Also, how much did you buy it for?

    Make sure you check google to see if it's indexed. "site:yourdomanurl.com"

    If it's not it is a huge red flag. Although you can still index expired domains that are not indexed or deindexed. But requires more work.
     
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    Best bet is to use seospyglass and then sort links by PR and take a look at the links, the slowest but safest way!
     
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    What's the MozTrust of the root domain? If you go to Open Site Explorer, enter the domain, hit search and then go to the "compare link metrics" tab - scroll down to the bottom for the Domain MozTrust metric. This generally gives a good indication of the quality of the backlinks. I'd be looking for something above 4 as a minimum but 5+ is even better.
     
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    Thank you very much.. The domain MozTrust is 3.04 [​IMG]

    In addition the first 5 websites that link to the site are high PR websites PR6,PR5,PR4 , however, it seems to be a PBN that is linking to this domain!
     
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    check those domain on archive.org to see if they was droped and used for pbn... idont care much to metrick i like to see good backlinks from authority and niche relevant to the old domain.
     
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    Visit the urls linking to it and scan their pages to see if the backlinks still exist. If they still exist, they are probably not PBN links. Btw, why do you think they might be PBN links?
     
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    Well I checked the first 10 links that are pointing to this domain according to MOZ.

    3 of them are Soft Adult wordpress sites with some nutty girl and 2 sites don't load and the rest seems to be WordPress themes that have the sole purpose to just work as an
    PBN - at least they look unprofessional and unrelated and looking into the web.archive.org then they have been reg. 2003 and 2004 at this time they looked like amateur / private pages with different content.

    I'm very nervous about that this domain / PBN broker is cheating, we have 5000 $ to spend on domains and to built a PBN so I don't want to waste my money on some chimp that steal my money.. Any idea what else I can do?
     
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    Should the below AWSTATS ring a bell or would you don't care ?
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    Jan 2014 0 0 0 0 0
    Feb 2014 0 0 0 0 0
    Mar 2014 0 0 0 0 0
    Apr 2014 0 0 0 0 0
    May 2014 0 0 0 0 0
    Jun 2014 0 0 0 0 0
    Jul 2014 0 0 0 0 0
    Aug 2014 8,622 21,338 41,046 41,591 631.76 MB
    Sep 2014 9,999 23,399 28,839 31,636 233.53 MB
    Oct 2014 0 0 0 0 0
    Nov 2014 0 0 0 0 0
    Dec 2014 0 0 0 0 0
    --

    And what about this, that's also from AWStats??:
    Links from an external page (other web sites except search engines)
    - http://xxxtopia.com
     
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