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PBN Links vs Real Sites Links

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by eayor, May 7, 2017.

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PBN Links vs Real Site Links

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  1. eayor

    eayor Registered Member

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    Hello

    as you have read title above please drop your experience or suggestion regarding PBN backlinks are better or real site (guest post) backlinks?
     
  2. SERPTurbo

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    Of course real site links are better, but they cost more, so you need to strike the right balance of both, depending on your budget.
     
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  3. Anonoptimization

    Anonoptimization Power Member

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    I personally don't use PBN's for my website. I'm trying to have it be a long term business though. I feel comfortable having links for years to come that if someone at Google if ever took a look at they would think it looks authentic.

    This has resulted in me investing thousands of dollars though but I think it's worth it if you think your website can be long term profitable.
     
  4. onlineventures

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    Real site links are hard to get but can be expensive. PBN is done correctly can be the cheaper option and equally powerful.
     
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    Comes down to ROI and how comfortable you feel with PBN links. If you own your own PBN and if you can build it perfectly, then the risks aren't high at all, price is significantly cheaper compared to real sites and power depends purely on how much you are willing to invest into domains. Real sites links are obviously preferred, but it comes down to your budget.
     
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    In my personal opinion, both PBN/Real sites will work better, but it depends on how much are you spending for backlinks.
    If you have a high budget you can surely go with Real sites (you will get high traffic to your sites than other links and rankings for targeted keywords).
    Or build links from unique PBN's.
     
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    When it comes to building links. We can't depend on a single source. So, Diversify your links by Guest post, High authority, PBN, Web 2.0.. Etc.. The concern is which one should come first. If its your money site and you have a good budget to spend then I suggest you to go with real sites, high authority as Tier - 1, PBN / Web2.0 as Tier - 2, Other Submission as Tier - 3
     
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  8. seoguy81

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    Both are equally the same... assuming that the PBN's are niche related and not some random topical stuff.

    Depending on how one manages the PBN, real sites have the added benefit of being socially visible and active as well that works in its favor.

    Besides the above, I guess its all about domain metrics and the link juice they can pass on to your site.

    Budget wise, it depends on the niche. Some PBN's charge a certain fee, while you can get some free posting opportunities from real sites in your niche.
     
  9. stevesolo

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    Getting content backlinks from real sites is good, which helps to get natural traffic and this is the way to tell Google that your site carries some proper authority, so you can boost your rankings. If you have enough budget, then real site links is a good choice.
     
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    Cant say it better than that. Links from real sites are normally going to be better - they are real, likely to be up for longer and you have the potential advantage of traffic as well as link juice. But its not always the case - if you go and get guest posts from fiverr and such then they might not be that much better than your own private PBN links.

    Also, if you get posts on real sites but the webmasters of those sites are employing underhand link building tactics then you wont be much better off. So its always good to check metrics, backlinks and other factors in detail regardless of what links you are building.

    Also the last consideration is the control you have over any backlinks - remember if you are building links by guest posting on real sites then its still not 100% legit because you are trying to control backlinks, anchor text etc. So you want some control over those links - if you get thousands of guest posts on random sites then you have no control or power to remove those links, change anchor text etc which is a potential issue.

    I guess the real answer, as with everything, is that a mixture is good - dont concentrate on just one aspect but try to build steady flow of quality links from as many sources as possible.
     
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    If you do it right then PBN links will be normal site links.
     
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    Can you explan more this sentence ? Can you share with us what kind off anchors you use, when you backlink to money site ?
     
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    If you do PBNs right they look just like normal sites. If they look like a PBN, then you're doing it wrong.

    Anchors : Gotta try and build a normal looking link profile. There is no one formula, just mix them up, create some without any kw's, some with the plain domain and so on.
     
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    just make PBNs like money sites. Rank them too and they can be very powerful (tried this once on a very small niche so can't say for sure).
     
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    Well why not doing both?
    I mean PBN and free guest posts.
    The more free guest posts you will be able to get, it's less resources (aka money and time) you are going to spend on PBN.
     
  16. starki

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    Links from real sites (not talking about bogus mommy blogs consisting of 90% guest posts) are certainly the safest way, it boils down to how much you want to invest. To get a link that equals the power of a expired you can buy for let's say $150-200 (link from mainpage), you will probably have to spend at least $1000. Also keep in mind that most guest posts aren't static links, they have most power once published and then slowly but steadily drop deeper and deeper into some archive, away from the mainpage.

    It's like investing in the stock market, the more risk you are willing to take, the less investment you need for the same returns, but the risk of losing you money increases, too.
     
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    He meant that, If you do your PBN right, It will look like some real site!
    Not like some crappy blog with 3 posts, and 3 outgoing links.

    Your anchor question is about a whole new thread,
    Thats impossible to say the answer without the knowlegde of your language, niche, site, backlinks etc.
    Whats worked for him, maybe that wont work for you...
     
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    It depends on your needs and budget if you are going to use it for tier2 links you can go with PBN links, or else you like to use it for money site directly then go with real sites with good traffic it will help you to push your KW's further.
     
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    Real sites links are, Because you build the backlinks from the real authority sites then it will be longer available as well as to provide you the organic traffic also. So, your backlinks are strong and at the same it's a natural way of building links that will be lovable by the search engines as well.
     
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    I proffer Guest posts. If that's what you meant.