PBN is going to DIE in Near Future

The way people build and treat their private PBNs will need to change in the near future I believe. But more so the way PBN link sellers handle their networks will absolutely have to change in the very near future. The Achilles Heel of these PBNs are their content and their footprints. I'm seeing way too many sellers using semi-duplicate or unreadable content in their networks, and I'm seeing a LOT of sellers posting the same clients articles/links in the SAME ORDER across their network. So you'll have an article about dogs, then microwaves, then baseball bats, then laser mice all in that order across 50 different sites... who are probably all wordpress sites. This is a horrible and gigantic footprint, when combined with sub-prime content will eventually (if it hasn't already based on my experience) cause many publicly sold PBN links to become totally worthless for ranking.
 
But if its properly setup then there isn't a real need for worrying about footprints so much. A BH site replicating what organic sites are doing is going to look organic in the eyes of google.
 
Two schools of thought in this thread:

A - Those who live thanks to the PBN, which are blind.

B - Those who are concerned about the future, which are pessimistic.

Time will tell who is right. And who is wrong.

The only question for the moment is:

What next after PBN?
 
PBN's will die once backlinks wont be the determining factor on website's rankings , or if there wont be websites , its a big NO .
 
Two schools of thought in this thread:

A - Those who live thanks to the PBN, which are blind.

B - Those who are concerned about the future, which are pessimistic.

Time will tell who is right. And who is wrong.

The only question for the moment is:

What next after PBN?

working for google would be next. there you go..
 
For PBNs, like everything else, there is a short term way and long term way of doing it. The only thing I can see Google tightening up is quality of sites/content/footprints like that.
 
I can't believe this thread was featured in the BHW newsletter (yes I read the newsletter sometimes ).

This is like a politician saying criminal activities will not exist in near future lol

A good PBN can't be detected, the problem is with people cutting corners in making the PBN.
 
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Google does not need to hit PBNs. The internet is dying. Why would they beat a dead horse?
 
Google never hit your PBN unless if you're good and smart in handling them.. Still people built their own PBN for their site and they're strong.. It depends on the quality of PBN..
 
Yes everyone should stop using PBN's. It won't work, it will stop working, it never worked. SEO is practically dead.

/sarcasm
(hopefully this lowers the price of good domains!)
 
Google's Animals are learning "Boxing" to Knock-Out the PBN sellers. It has hurt the Google Zoo.
 
Nothing is for ever, if google really wanted to, im sure they could spy on ur sites and find everything about you even pbns lol. but when one thing dies there's always something else to back it up.
 
Cheap careless PBN's will die. Strong secured ones, made with care, will live forever. Well, until G stops to count backlinks as a factor at all.
This, and nothing more. I've seen tons of PBNs and I could tell that 99% of them are made purely for link building in about 2 seconds on average. So can Google.

The way I see it, Google will most likely start devaluing domains that end up on marketplaces and they will start mass banning the obvious PBNs. By obvious I mean that every post links to a single niche site, there are no interlinks, site has poor structure and nothing is happening on it except spam. Non-relevant PBNs will fall first, then relevant ones that are poorly made. As long as you treat your PBN properly, Google can't do shit about it.

Even if they don't update Google's algo for finding PBNs, they can always put together a team of 10 employees who will find couple of 1000 obvious PBN domains in just 1 week. When that happens, a shitstorm of "PBNs are dead" threads will appear once again.

Difference between 99% PBN sites and sites that are not meant to be PBNs:

- Interlinks
- More articles with no outer links
- Less obvious anchor texts
- Better design and structure (manual reviewers can go fuck themselves)
- More links to other relevant sites

The question is: If you link to 200 different sites and only 5 of them are yours, what will Google do? Ban them all? Of course costs of making a proper PBN can triple in no time. But who cares? Triple the costs, triple the durability and enjoy the steady earnings longer. I'm all-in with that. Google doesn't care if you optimize your sites with PBNs. As long as they give value and they actually look like they are made for readers and not for Google's algorithm, I see no problem with that. Time will tell.
 
You see, the term PBN itself is wrong as there is no network as per what I usually build as each PBN site. If you build individual blogs or sites without any network between them (no backlinking from one to another), there'd no risk. So, it will last lifelong. Just get good articles on it, optimize it, get real traffic and make it like a new blog/site of yours.

Cheers!
 
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