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PBN: How Many Sites On Each Registrant Account?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by bigballin6161, May 6, 2016.

  1. bigballin6161

    bigballin6161 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    As the title says. How many site can I have in each account to be safe? All sites are pointing to the same money site.
     
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    You mean hosting or domain name accounts? The way I do it is that I don't have a fixed amount, I randomize everything. For example, I have a list of domain name registrars in Excel (the most popular ones) and then I assign a random number (between 1 and 3) to each one and that number will determine the amount of domains I will buy with that registrar. In the next column, I have again a random distribution formula of how many domains will have privacy, although it doesn't matter much in my case, because I use fake data about everything.

    I do the same with hosting, but the only problem with that file is that it needs to be cleaned up frequently - since I hunt down $10-15/year hosts and negotiate custom deals with companies, some of them may go out of business (which happens quite a lot especially if they are resellers), others may not be worthy after a while (too much downtime, DDOS), etc... I use webhostingtalk to compile my lists and find cheap hosts.

    To be honest, the whole "don't register too many domains under 1 registrar" is a myth. I have a real-life friend that has tons of PBN sites and he uses only 2 registrars for every domain to keep things organized and he never got caught. I know a few people on this forum that do the same and they are enjoying higher rankings than ever. The reason I do it is because I love randomness for everything and I have very organized files for all the details (email/pass, name servers, etc...), so the extra couple hours in the beginning to set up new accounts is nothing.

    Regarding hosting, I just make sure that the other sites in the shared accounts aren't other people PBN-s or any shady sites - I have VA-s that check them up regularly. Again, some of my sites have dedicated IP-s and some don't. What you do with the site, the way you build it and the footprints you leave while building and maintaining it will be the case of de-indexing 99% of the times, not the hosting, so just follow some simple common sense guidelines and don't overthink that much about it.
     
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    bigballin6161 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Awesome answer man! I was talking about registering the domains but you cleared up a lot of other questions I had as well thanks alot!
     
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    You are welcome. I also suggest reading these threads, they will answer most of the questions you have (if not all of them). Some answers may be contradicting meaning that different people do things differently, but that's just the nature of the SEO business and overall the threads have tons of information about PBN-s you can learn from - 1, 2, 3, 4 (the last 2 threads are more like an overall summary and the list of all bots you can block with .htaccess).
     
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  5. DioPolare

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    When you find a good registrar and a good hosting (separated) why not put all these sites in these baskets?

    Better put more effort in searching for a good one, than spread it to more, that could in the end results in more risk on your side to loose one of them.
     
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    And site you can registered on expireddomains which is the best one and on very cheap you can get the hosting too.
     
  7. Lone Wolf

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    Just use one account per registrar you use... It's not like they'll tell Google "psst, this client owns the following domains: [...]". Just use fake and private WHOIS information and you're set.