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PBN Homepage Links a Signal?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Vladamir, Mar 30, 2017.

  1. Vladamir

    Vladamir Power Member

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    I Had a question for some of you pbn veterans.

    I have been using pbns for some time now my network is growing pretty big for a few sites I recently bought some pbns from a new seller I found and he told me not to put my links on the homepage of my pbn because thats a huge signal. Now I understand logically how it would look with 20 homepage links off 1 month old expired domains going to 1 site, you dont have to be a genius to see this looks fishy but I still dont want to use internal pages of my pbns since those arent the pages with the juice and if im paying good money for a high trust flow homepage why let it rot and use internal pages with 0 trust or authority.

    I guess im looking for someones opinion on this, should i do all links from internal pbn pages from now on to balance out my links? Is there any case study or proven literature out there on this?

    Thanks everyone!
     
  2. supportnhelp

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    never follow exact same pattern, do it mix, some homepage and some internal page. Your concern ranking. right. internal pages work great, if post linked from home page. or on home page.

    internal pages get trust and authority from Home page. so no worry.

    I have seen many very competitive sites ranking with their own PBN, and they almost put 99% links on internal post. But those post titles linked from home page.
     
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    I would say, you do whatever if Google wants to find out you will get found. Say if you have 10 posts in homepage and you link out from 5 of them, you should be fine with it. You want to be extra careful then go with links from internal pages. Experience shows rankings with links from internal pages takes a lot more time than those from homepage.
     
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    I have a pbn that has no verbiage but links to the main site. The platforms are varied but it's still churning. I WOULD NOT recommend that but Agree with Sristy.
     
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  5. Vladamir

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    I usually bring back 50% of my pbns from wayback and have them pure html with a static homepage and 2 links
    then other 50% wordpress with the front page being blog format with 1 post at the top constantly on the home page with 2 links

    I guess what im getting from this is that dont worry about homepage links and just do it unless i want to be paranoid in which case my internal links will be worth much less.
     
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    Homepage links are much much more powerful. I've never had a single issue with homepage links. It isn't something google can algorithmically detect, and it wouldn't make much sense for them to attempt it either. A lot of legitimate sites would be hit.

    All you have to do is look at examples of authority sites. If they have a page with 0 backlinks then it's not that hard to outrank them. Sure it'll be stronger than a weak site's pages, but relative to the strength of the overall site, the page with no links is pretty weak.

    Now imagine that you're only getting a LINK from that weaker page, you aren't even the page its self.

    You could juice up an internal page with plenty of contextual internal links to it(Not menu links), including a contextual link from the homepage, but it'll still be weaker than the homepage, and there's no benefit. If you get a manual review then it's not going to come down to whether your page is on the homepage or an internal page that keeps you safe.
     
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    I for one believe that full articles on homepage, which are basically a necessity with homepage links, are one of the top red flags. 95% of the domains that I go through, that have full homepage posts are either mommy blogs or PBNs. If I were to build an algorithm for detecting PBNs, then this would definitely be one of the factors. Doubt you will get hit just because of homepage links, though I rather tend to play it safe with inner pages, even though I am sacrificing firepower. Diverisity is still a number 1 rule of PBN building.
     
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    and, on my usual perfect on page SEO sitenote, you can only have ONE home page post, otherwise it will fuck up your TITLE tag severly.
    and if, you have to mess with those keyword anchors again.
    so, its' either a long "one pager"; or the usual blogposts style.
     
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    Algo? Let's play with you.
    Don't waste the juice you worked so hard to produce, use homepage links.
    Algo won't detect it, and most likely 99% of the PBN's won't survive a manual review regardless of the link placements, and the ones that WILL pass a manual review were probably invested too much time in them.
     
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    Why you guys think that juice don't flow to internal pages of domain?
    In most cases it's even better to have a link from internal page because you create it niche related. Juice from homepage flow to inner pages and you get link from a relevant page, thats a big plus in my opinion. Just make sure that this internal page is linked from homepage.
     
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    love that street smart wisdom comment.
     
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    Diversity, diversity. Both homepage and inner page links. Mix them. Mix everything. Or get screwed.
     
  13. Vladamir

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    Thanks everyone for the advice, my new pbn link strategy will be use all homepage links unless i find a subpage in majestic that has rank in which case ill use that as an inner page link.
    I diversify the link profile by also using guest posts and buying drip fed social signals
     
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    only thin diversifying you are doing with this, is NOT knowing what helped your site rank or drop.