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PBN Deindexed - Only front pages affected

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Knasper, Aug 31, 2016.

  1. Knasper

    Knasper Junior Member

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    So, for the last week I've noticed something very weird, that my PBNs are getting deindexed.

    However, not completely, only the front pages where I tend to put links as they are most valuable from a link juice point of view.

    I have pretty long experience from PBNs so no need to double check whether I have different hosting, IPs etc etc. I just want to hear if someone else has experienced the same problems?

    Before you answer, please write site:yourpbndomain.com and check if the root/front page is still indexed, that is yourpbndomain.com only
     
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    Seems like a typical duplicate content removal, the home page disappears. Either way, if your PBN has been caught it's worthless.
     
  3. Knasper

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    Thanks for your reply, care to explain what you mean by duplicate content removal? Where would the duplicate content be?
     
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    Check my thread for indexing, I built this thing for exactly this issue.

    Resurrecting de-indexed pbn can be done.
     
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    Which thread is that? I still want to know if people have the same issue though, so I look forward for more replies if anyone has experienced something similar recently.
     
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    If for example on the home page you show full posts, this usually triggers a duplicate content filter. There are other cases where duplicate content happens by accident.
     
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    We don't work with posts so that's not it unfortunately.
     
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    I've got heaps of clients with blog index type home pages and there has never been a deindexation of any sites. It has definitely nothing to do with duplicate content. Usually when a deindexation comes, it's because of something a lot more serious than dupe content (across your own site)

    OP: Are you creating unique content?
     
  10. Knasper

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    Exactly, don't believe that theory either, thanks for your input msoon77.

    We recreate old content, that has worked before but seems like Google might be looking into this way of building PBNs?
     
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    And it works same as before?
     
  12. Knasper

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    With all the respect, please don't try to hijack this thread by selling a service. We are discussing the potential problem here. Agreed?
     
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    Knasper: Can you give me a little more detail about recreating old content?
    • Are you grabbing a currently live article, then just spinning it lightly/heavily?
    • What % of this content are you using?
    • What % of your PBN's are getting deindexed so far?
    To be honest with you, it's rare that Google would deindex sites because of the above. Not saying it never happens but, it's rare.

    What I reckon happened, is that you set off some kind of foot print on your PBN's. Anchor text linking out to commercial sites in a consistent manner would set off a manual review.

    When the reviewer comes, he'd then look at the "quality" of your site. If your content doesn't read well and it looks like a typical SEO site, you're gonna get it deindexed.

    - This probably also explains why not all your PBN's went down in one shot (at least that's what I'm reading from your initial post). They're going down one at a time because they're hosted separately but you're triggering a pattern here.
     
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    If this was a reviewer thing whis whole domain would be deindexed, why don't you add one of your PBN's to the google webmaster tool (on a dummy gmail account) and see if your site is banned/penalized, takes out lot of the guessing
     
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    Noticed something similar on one of my newer money sites. If I type site:domain.com, the homepage isn't there, but if I type domain.com, the homepage is there. Do your homepages show up if you try to get to the site without using site:? Not sure what's going on, but my entire site is filled with A+ content and everything is clean through and through, haven't built any links yet.
     
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    FC-DH has a good point there. One way to stop guessing is to use Search Console.

    Also are you sure your site hasn't been hacked with some sorta malicious code placed on your home page?
     
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    Checklist:

    1. Check robots.txt - make sure you haven't disallowed any URL's you shouldn't be

    2. Double check your noindex/nofollow tags and plugins that allow you to alter it for Wordpress. Sometimes things go funky.

    3. Usually Google blocks out duplicates from SITE: queries. Try it. So if I were you i'd do this as a test:

    o_O- Get your non-indexed home page, NEW content fresh, well written content. Don't put any links on the home page. Let it sit for a week and see what happens.

    - Report back with what's happening.
     
  18. Knasper

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    Sorry for the late reply, I've been busy recovering the money site which I managed.

    Big thanks to you msoon77 and Jared255 - It shows that the sites haven't been deindexed at all,
    just that they don't show up with the site:domain.com search, but with the domain.com search

    Now I need to recover all the sites I've removed, but that's a small problem compared to large scale
    indexing.

    With regards to your previous question msoon77, we recreate old content. We don't spin content
    or anything, but this seems to work still and it has done so for years. The problem with the site:domain.com
    check in our case is probably that domain.com and domain.com/index.html show the same content, that
    I will have to arrange.

    Thanks a lot for your valuable input.