PBN and ranking problem of money site

• I have an important long tail keyword for which I created a special page on the money site
• I have created a lot PBN articles focused on that long tail keyword and linked them to that special page on my money site, I basically have 10-15 PBN articles in TOP 70 serps for that keyword
• the money site is still ranking only in 3-5th place, while my competitors have hardly any links and none of them in top 100 for that keyword
• its like this for a very long time (1 year or so)

• I did the same as above, its a 2 month old domain
  
• PBN pages rank better than the linked page on the money site! Whaat?

SeLecTeD said:

Are you using the Tumblr method ? It happend to me as well. You could just send the traffic from pages to your money site and still earn a lot.

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asker1 said:

Hi,

• PBN pages rank better than the linked page on the money site! Whaat?

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jamie3000 said:

Over optimisation of content on money site A?

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nodyguy said:

Ah, maybe check your onpage Seo?

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darulez said:

penalty 1x1, dont youthinkso?

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jamie3000 said:

Have you checked your neighbours? Or is this a dedicated IP?

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asker1 said:

Yeah, I was thinking about onpage, but cant find any obvious flaw. I just checked the KW density on the money page A and its around 1,7% for a 1500 word article. Lots of internal links to that page too.
On the money site B its around 2,3%.


Can you explain it, please? Havent heard about penalty 1x1.

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asker1 said:

I use a reputable virtual server hosting + cloudflare, so its hard to find any neighbours.

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jamie3000 said:

If you've got your money site on a free cloud flare plan then that might be your problem. You'll be sharing an ip with a ton of spammy websites.

Have a look at the majestic bad neighbourhood checker or my supa growth one (free, no catches). Might help.

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asker1 said:

Hmm, do you think that it could poise such a large problem? Because free Clouldflare is used by a lots of reputable sites and it would be unusable if Google would just give penalties to everyone on cloudflare because of some spammy sites in there. I just checked majestic and it found a lot of really reputable brands on that IP...

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jamie3000 said:

Well if you've checked everything else and are certain it's not on page or off page then maybe. Where is the money site that's ranking ok? Is that on cloud flare free as well? I've read stories of people's rankings dropping after moving onto the free plan. But then again who knows how reliable these stories are. Could you trial a premium account?

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darulez said:

well, either you got "some kind of" penatly on your moneysite.
OR, you were impatience as a the get-rich-trolls after setting up your PBN posts.
wait 21 days after the PBN links , pointint to your moneysite. and see the magic.

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asker1 said:

I was just thinking about on page factors. I do have a large iframe form just after the first paragraph. I am not sure if it could influence my rankings so badly, but I do need the iframe, it has an affiliate form in it. Of course I could make a button instead and link it to some other dedicated page with only the iframe, but I think that the conversion rate would drop.

But of course maybe it doesnt have anything to do with it.

The money site B doesnt have any iframe, just buttons with nofollow redirects.

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asker1 said:

Well I am waiting patiently for a long time. Years. But I have to admit one thing - I ranked a lot better previously, maybe 6-8 months ago I was first for most the keywords and now its slowly dissipating. Didnt change anything big, just slowed with building PBN links and created more content. I have 100 PBN domains pointed at the money site A.

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Tove said:

OP don't listen to people randomly posting their advice here, if you check their post history you will see they have no idea what they're talking about, penalty LOL.

For each site you do, you should make link building campaign which will you stick to, I usually do 2-3 month campaign for each site, pbns carefully dripped over and other links so it looks like a normal business. If i am not ranked after that, i continue dripping pbns.

For your 2 month site, its simple, your pbn domains have more age and juice. It's very rare to rank a site in less than 3 months these days.

In your 1 year old site, competitors might be hiding their pbn, or you don't have enough topical relevance, or your bounce rate, ctr etc. are shit . It can be a ton of stuff, impossible to tell without having all the data.

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