PBN and Money site question

dgeebee · Nov 19, 2016

Hi all,

I'm getting into PBN and because I've put quite some money into it I'm kinda saving on hosting for my money sites.
1/ Let's say I have 4 amazon site niches do you think I should host them on different ip/hosting accounts? Is that something you do (if you have experience!)
So far all my money sites are on one hosting, would that affect serp results as well ?

2/ Another question actually: I used auctions for my first PBN, do you think it's worth it? Or would quality expired link be enough? for like a 30 sites PBN ?

Please only respond if you have experience

Thanks for your help

articlewritingwork · Nov 19, 2016

I want to know about this as well.

redarrow · Nov 19, 2016

You use a diffrent servise for every website if your going to use pbn.

Daniss Jasmer · Nov 19, 2016

I want to know about this, Can anyone share the experiences?

BackY · Nov 19, 2016

Anyone knows where I could read more about PBNs? I'm really interested to invest on that, seems the safest link building strategy, right?

SEO INC · Nov 19, 2016

Money sites on the same ip have got no meaning. It is the PBNs which should be on different IP/hosts.

Nargil · Nov 19, 2016

Definitely have each money site on a different hosting. Even though if one site gets hit, others most likely won't get, but do not help Google to connect the dots. Don't give them more reasons to screw you over if you don't have to.

Imagine you have your PBN sites hosted on different hosts. You link from each domain to multiple money sites. Normally it wouldn't be that huge footprint, but considering all your money sites are on the same IP, then it's fairly obvious, that you are trying to manipulate Google. It would be okay with one domain, but on 30? Not a chance that would be a coincidence and it would raise some red flags.

About the PBN sites, it comes down to your budget. If you can afford buying domains from auctions, then by no means do so. If you are unable to do that, then expired domains will do. There is no right or wrong here, it's subjective and comes down only to your personal preference, nothing else. Both will bring similar results with approximately similar budget.

BackY · Nov 19, 2016

Nargil said:
Definitely have each money site on a different hosting. Even though if one site gets hit, others most likely won't get, but do not help Google to connect the dots. Don't give them more reasons to screw you over if you don't have to.

Imagine you have your PBN sites hosted on different hosts. You link from each domain to multiple money sites. Normally it wouldn't be that huge footprint, but considering all your money sites are on the same IP, then it's fairly obvious, that you are trying to manipulate Google. It would be okay with one domain, but on 30? Not a chance that would be a coincidence and it would raise some red flags.

About the PBN sites, it comes down to your budget. If you can afford buying domains from auctions, then by no means do so. If you are unable to do that, then expired domains will do. There is no right or wrong here, it's subjective and comes down only to your personal preference, nothing else. Both will bring similar results with approximately similar budget.

What is the benefit of expired domains bro? Can you please explain. I heard expired domains get their domain age RESET if they are expired (not continued for another year). Thats what happened with my domain and thats what the namecheap guys told me when I asked them.

Nargil · Nov 19, 2016

Age is not the point. The backlinks pointing to the domain are what you are after.

asap1 · Nov 19, 2016

Buy the domains for sellers. I wouldn't try finding domains at the auction myself.

alexnobmmo · Nov 20, 2016

dgeebee said:
Hi all,

I'm getting into PBN and because I've put quite some money into it I'm kinda saving on hosting for my money sites.
1/ Let's say I have 4 amazon site niches do you think I should host them on different ip/hosting accounts? Is that something you do (if you have experience!)
So far all my money sites are on one hosting, would that affect serp results as well ?

2/ Another question actually: I used auctions for my first PBN, do you think it's worth it? Or would quality expired link be enough? for like a 30 sites PBN ?

Please only respond if you have experience

Thanks for your help

I've been managing hundreds of PBNs, so I think have enough experience to give some opinions

1. The best solution is separate hosting for your money sites. However, I used to host 4-5 money sites on the same host, using the same PBN system without facing any problems
2. I think Godaddy auction is a great place to catch high quality PBN, however, the price is really throat-cutting. You have to pay when winning the auction, then have to keep paying for domain renewal, that boost the expense so much ; so I will say that the it's not worth it to use Godaddy auction UNLESS you've having abundant budget and are seeking for Top-quality expire domains with very very powerful backlink profiles.

Good luck!

We Bring Rank · Nov 20, 2016

Build each PBN on different IP's and content should be Unique, then you got better result for your money site.. and Buy auctions domains before you go and check backlink profile .. and check spam score

BackY · Nov 20, 2016

Nargil said:
Age is not the point. The backlinks pointing to the domain are what you are after.

How about having a lot of backlinks to a fresh domain, because that's what the domain's age will be after it's expired, right? Isn't it fishy to have a lot of backlinks for a new domain?

Nargil · Nov 20, 2016

Lot of backlinks to a new domain will lead to a penalty or sandbox. That's pointless.

And no, it won't be fishy. It's absolutely normal, that the previously registered domain got registered again. Completely natural, really don't worry about this.

And you are thinking about the age of the domain too much. As I've said, the age doesn't really matter that much. What matters, is the age of the content, which won't be there anyway, so don't overthink it.

Fresh domain is something, that has just been registered for the first time ever and has never had any previous history.

tux · Jan 24, 2017

Nargil said:
Definitely have each money site on a different hosting. Even though if one site gets hit, others most likely won't get, but do not help Google to connect the dots. Don't give them more reasons to screw you over if you don't have to.

Imagine you have your PBN sites hosted on different hosts. You link from each domain to multiple money sites. Normally it wouldn't be that huge footprint, but considering all your money sites are on the same IP, then it's fairly obvious, that you are trying to manipulate Google. It would be okay with one domain, but on 30? Not a chance that would be a coincidence and it would raise some red flags.

About the PBN sites, it comes down to your budget. If you can afford buying domains from auctions, then by no means do so. If you are unable to do that, then expired domains will do. There is no right or wrong here, it's subjective and comes down only to your personal preference, nothing else. Both will bring similar results with approximately similar budget.

Suppose I'm just starting out with seo and want to start 2-3 money sites (both CPA, low comp) would it be safe to host them on my hosting having dedicated IP (without getting penalty)

Nargil · Jan 24, 2017

mitussj said:
Suppose I'm just starting out with seo and want to start 2-3 money sites (both CPA, low comp) would it be safe to host them on my hosting having dedicated IP (without getting penalty)

For 2 - 3 domains it should be fine, but I would still put each of them separately.

tux · Jan 24, 2017

Nargil said:
For 2 - 3 domains it should be fine, but I would still put each of them separately.

Well then I'll host them on my hosting for now, will move them to a different host as soon as I see some results

Nargil · Jan 24, 2017

That can be done, yep

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