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PayPal tried to kill my business - hire my very good filipino

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by AndyR, Nov 24, 2010.

  1. AndyR

    AndyR Registered Member

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    Hello,

    I hope that I am not violating the site terms by making this thread here as i`m not offering my freelancer services but just trying to help out a very nice person who lost his job because of PayPal and me.

    I did dropshipping of Chinese electronic gadgets and PayPal closed my account with 12K USD on it without no warning or a reason in my view. I`m working hard on recovering from this but since all my money was there (literally ALL) then I cannot pay my very nice filipino who`s been working for me.

    He`s super smart, I gave him the claimed "undetectable linkwheel" diagram and basically no instructions other than, study and do this and he figured out the whole thing all by himself and produced the thing in few days. Also he does yahoo answers, forum posting, article marketing etc. But mainly I have him to do the linkwheel with all unique articles and some yahoo answers in which he`s great.

    I paid him 175$ per month in the beginning and just now give him a raise and lately paid 200$. You can make your own deals but please dont go under 175$. His email is olaer.jaime@gmail.com

    Again please understand that i`m trying to help this guy feed his family which he cant because of my business model and the fucking thieves at PayPal.
     
  2. RedWolf

    RedWolf BANNED BANNED

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    means you are paying $175 for full month ?
     
  3. AndyR

    AndyR Registered Member

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    Yes,

    I spent over a month going through all the people in onlinejobs.ph to find that skilled person with that small salary. It was a fucking pain and thats why I also wouldnt like it to go to waste.
     
  4. 2011nfl

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    life is not that expensive there when it comes to food for family only.

    anyway, I can fully understand as PP restricted my account as well. I did the mistake to access my account from another country and made a transfer >$500. The automatism blocked immediately. I had to call them and explain that I (sometimes) have to make a kind of vacation, but business goes on...very hard to understand for callcenter agents who only knows numbers and email addresses.....long story short: anywhere you go, access PP only via VPN if you're going out.

    I will see if I have a job for this guy.

    And good luck for the OP. Hope you get it sorted, it's not easy but always try to be kind but persistent. They're not allowed to steal!
     
  6. 2011nfl

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    And they really dont steal it but what they do is just as bad. They hold it for 6 months in their bank account, allowing it to earn them interest. They are known for putting large accounts on hold for that reason. And it makes perfect since if you think about it, a million dollars in the bank equals $30,000 a year interest, and they easily put atleast $10,000,000 of peoples money on hold every year, thats atleast $300,000 per year of free money for them, but in my eyes that is still theft.
     
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  7. AndyR

    AndyR Registered Member

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    Exactly what 2011nfl said - this is exactly what they are doing, they are basically "loaning" money from us without our will, with no interest and in common sense illegally. Their user agreement is 25 pages long law text which no living person can decipher. It comes down to this that PayPals business model has evolved into astate which it currently can be described as a legal theft.
     
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  8. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    Firstly, why on earth would you keep 12k in a Paypal account? That's crazy, they always limit accounts for no reason.

    Get a proper merchant account if you're doing decent volumes. Don't mess around with paypal as they will fuck you.

    Anyway, I always have work for people, so emailed your friend. Cheers!
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  9. Sdshane

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    Hope you find a good employer for him Andy. I'm going to be looking for someone but not quite ready yet. PP did the same to me, though I kept very little money in there, so not really painful. Hope things work out for you. As an aside, where did you get the "undetectable linkwheel" diagram?

    Cheers
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  10. m0nster

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    you doing that? i should do that got a limited acc right now too.

    there is a option to have your money withdrawn to your bank account at the end of every night i believe. for anyone else, might want to turn that on.

    if i can afford to hire anyone i will email your friend. best of luck for getting your money, duck you gaypal!
     
  11. lakerfan2400

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    Yep hes a smart guy Yahoo answers is an amazing tool and offers a sick amount of traffic . I have a bot that can answer / post 1000's of questions only selling to a few people , if interested PM or AIM me .
     
  12. Matteo

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    I live in Asia and know 3 guys who have offices in Phillipines doing all their seo work. Wouldnt even think about employing here.

    From what Ive heard they are the best s.e.o. ers in Asia.
     
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    do u have to pay taxes if u have a merchant account? I mean do u have to give ur tax id to paypal??

    And smart guy does seo is that right?
     
  14. 2011nfl

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    Yes, I did sign up for the lawsuit, they only held about $60 of my money that i can now withdraw since its been 6 months, so its not really about the money for me as much as the principle. I always immediately withdrew funds, and never accepted large transactions through them because i knew their reputation.
     
  15. forgot

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    I too lost over $10k with fucking gaypal.

    well here is the case

    I think 50% of IM'er will lost at least $5k each with GayPal. Now how many IM'er do we have? 1000 per month? 10,000 per month? Thats fucking good number.

    They make money from us, but I think they like the blackhat route to make money fast, in fact illegal - theft.

    Now, I use some products/services for which I need to pay via paypal only, so for that I need to use a vcc. but for the past 1 month, paypal fucking even holds the payment which I send via vcc. New pp, new ip, new details still they track.

    Quick Dead PayPal.
     
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    tell him to check his e-mail ASAP.
    i am offering him a position at my office in PH