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PayPal sending money to friends/family?

Discussion in 'Ebay' started by krs000aaa, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. krs000aaa

    krs000aaa Newbie

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    Hi,

    I didn't know exactly where to post this, but it's just a basic PayPal question.

    When someone sends me money on PayPal to pay for a service (i.e. not purchasing a product), is it possible for them to file claims / issue chargebacks against me afterwards and make up stories to PayPal that they did not receive the service they paid for?
    If yes, how would I be able to prove my innocence that I provided the service that was paid for? (since there is no product I can't provide tracking number etc).
     
  2. PHPInjected

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    Yes it is possible. It happens to even the most respected, high rated sellers. What were you selling? If it were something that can be vouched for like website design, seo, graphic design, etc then you can screenshot every thing you and the buyer discussed and submit it to paypal. I have recently won a paypal chargeback by doing this. See my recent threads. Just so you are aware, Paypal does provide seller protection. So if they dispute and you provided the service that you both agreed upon, call paypal, and explain to them your situation. If not, refund the buyer and understand that you need to provide your service as agreed.
     
  3. krs000aaa

    krs000aaa Newbie

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    So is there any kind of payment you can send on PayPal that is not refundable? Anything that can not be disputed once it has been sent? Donations? I am tired of people taking advantage of me and I want to explain to them upfront that the payment is non-refundable, I don't want to trick anyone, I just want to avoid all assholes that buy a service then file false claims to get their money back.
     
  4. Apricot

    Apricot Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    Get them to send the money as a gift, I don't think there's anything they can do then.
     
  5. krs000aaa

    krs000aaa Newbie

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    Is it still possible to do that? I thought they removed that feature.
     
  6. PHPInjected

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    If they sent the gift with a credit card, a charge back can always occur. They did not disable the feature, it is under " send money to friends or family".
     
  7. D4RK KNIGHT

    D4RK KNIGHT Regular Member

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    Sending money as a gift between PayPal accounts can get you limited and linked.
     
  8. PHPInjected

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    Thank you for the tip. I think what the OP meant was how can he prevent chargebacks and disputes from happening while providing an honest service.
     
  9. D4RK KNIGHT

    D4RK KNIGHT Regular Member

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    Yes but I just wanted to say to never send or accept money as a gift on PayPal any way, shape, or form. Because as im sure you already know PayPal will connect the dots.

    It will get you linked or that feature taken away from overusing.
     
  10. PHPInjected

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    I do not usually ask anyone to send it as a gift or send gift payments. I see what you are saying. One person gets banned, they happened to send and receive payments as gifts, now those people get their account reviewed and potentially limited because of the connection.
     
  11. DougG79

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    Send a low amount it might work but do it for a large amount or many times and they will limit your account.
     
  12. gary2

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    Yes this is possible. The only solution for this is to keep proofs of your work with you. Like a the mails that where you would have discussed the work or the confirmation you would have received on the mail from the other party for receipt of the work. Also, as suggested earlier you can keep screen shots, if they help. However, i believe email convos are the best medium to prove you have provided service.
     
  13. Ema Stephen

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    Yes you need to keep proofs of work and conversation and provide them when a claim is made.
     
  14. eko1990

    eko1990 Registered Member

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    I send a guy money with friends/family method and now i will fill up dispute because he didnt send my what i paid for. Will see how will it go...
     
  15. krs000aaa

    krs000aaa Newbie

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    But sending money to friends/family function is not intended to be used with paying for items/services, how is it even possible to file a claim specifying "item not received" after sending money that way?
    What if someone really is sending money to friends/family (perhaps as a birthday gift or pay back for a loan), they can then suddenly "steal" the money back? How do one (as the receiver of the money) contest that? Is it even possible in a situation like that or does PayPal automatically side with the person who filed the claim?
     
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  16. eko1990

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    I just know that i will never ever send money friends/family when paying for service and i would advise everyone not to send money like that.
     
  17. krs000aaa

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    eko, did you try to fail a dispute/claim for your family/friends transaction yet? Was it possible to do that?

     
  18. seo4life

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    same problem here, send a friend 150 usd for doing some image work, will they close it down?
     
  19. STAUNCH

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    It depends of the Age of the account, all previous transactions (if they were suspecious or not; suspecious to PP's system, NOT to you of course), of owner of the other PP account, his transaction history and activity and so on.

    It is not predictable.