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paypal Secure card - Requires Social insurance BS

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by tekken, Mar 21, 2009.

  1. tekken

    tekken Newbie

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    has anyone used the secure card from paypal, they added must put SOCIAL INSURANCE Number: The hell paypal is not getting my info anyone else get this shit?
     
  2. autosurf23

    autosurf23 Registered Member

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    do u mean social security number?
     
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    It's only for U.S.A

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    Thanks for the posting........
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    http://www.texashealthinsurancenow.com
     
  5. Curt7

    Curt7 Junior Member

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    Paypal is merely a payment processor, not a vendor. They do not need anyone's social security number for that.

    It may be a case of Paypal trying to make sure no one has more than one account. If that's the case, we can make up social security numbers for our accounts.

    Or,

    The IRS may be forcing them to report how much money flows through individual accounts, but it would be extremely difficult to sort it all out, especially since suppliers and vendors already have to report how much they pay out to individuals. That would lead to a lot of double reporting, and would make it a big mess. But we can still make up social security numbers for that, too.

    If anyone decides to make up social security numbers, do your research first. If you just throw up numbers, they will know it's a fraudulent number. Each segment of the number means something. The first set of numbers refers to the area where the card was issued. Get that wrong, and it's a dead giveaway.

    The last segment of the number is the easiest to alter. Of course, you will probably be using someone else's number in that case. But, who cares. It won't harm the other person. It will just add to the confusion.
     
  6. majestry

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    That is so painfully illegal
     
  7. l0cke

    l0cke Regular Member

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    Well, I have to say what you said you can sometimes get away with but it is blaringly stupid. Payment processors that offer the kind bank account and debit / credit card services that paypal does, regardless of whether it's payment via credit card acting as a middle man or offering a line of credit and / or credit card from paypal are required by law to get that information. After a certain amount of cash goes into an account (in toto), anti-terrorism and Patriot Act law requires U.S. financial companies and organizations to get that information. Paypal is no exception. If it is found you used a social security number that is not your own intentionally you will be investigated by those at act in the interest of US Homeland Security and also be pursuant to litigation by Paypal/eBay and have charges pressed against you. eBay is a huge group of companies so this isn't some small-fry company. Even companies like MoneyBookers require proof and although it can be faked it is very very unwise to do so. Your informing other people "that it can be done" and that they are wrong to ask for it is ignorant at best and also criminal. You may have ideas that overall that this system is a joke but if you're altering the information I'm sure you don't want to be investigated by the FBI / ICE or audited by the IRS. If you or anyone else does things that are taxable with your paypal account such as money-market fund gains they won't miss it. It's common practice currently with all financial agencies to prevent money laundering and fraud.
    Don't do it. It's not worth it to deceive a company like this because of the laws. The laws are invasive but are there to deter these actions and that won't change. I know it's possible to escape litigation and prosecution, but most of the countries that are currently not giving extradition rights to the U.S. are shit-holes even if you are a millionaire.

    My message would be blackhat IM is ok, financial fraud is not. I'd rather be sued by a small company that faces criminal charges that will deny me my rights and likely have anything I've earned and what I've achieved made the property of someone else and my overall freedom, which is what I make of it, lost.

    Best Regards

    l0cke