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Paypal problem - Help me, I beg of you !

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by SirLoki, Jan 27, 2016.

  1. SirLoki

    SirLoki Registered Member

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    Hello Black Hatters !

    I come to you today seeking some serious help as I'm really going crazy right now because two years of my work is going in the shitter.


    I'm from Morocco, a bloody 3rd world country where getting currency out the country is forbidden.


    For my eBay business (which by the way is now booming at over 200 sales a day because of all the work I did), I used the combination Paypal/Payoneer to process money out of Paypal and reuse it with my Payoneer card so I don't have to deal with government BS.


    But now, not only did Paypal decide it was a good idea to bring me back into Paypal jail and hold my funds for 21 days (I have over $5500 blocked) but also BLOCKED virtual US bank accounts which I used to withdraw my money. This is really bad because the normal cycle which my money used to go through is broken is a million pieces and it used to look like this:

    A sale is made on eBay, money comes to Paypal, is sent to Payoneer VBA, use debit card to purchase items to fulfill

    But at the moment, sales made from an ebay sale are blocked, so I have no access to money to fulfill orders, and worse than that.. Suppose I could get my hands on some money to fulfill the orders, how am I to withdraw money out of Paypal when it's released ?

    I don't want to withdraw into a local bank account because as mentionned above, getting currency out the country is forbidden so this kills cashflow.

    Could someone please provide assistance or advice ? Is this the end of my business ? What are some Payoneer alternatives that could provide me with a working VBA account I could use daily ?

    Thank you
     
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  2. TayaX

    TayaX Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Why don't you create a legal LLC in Delaware for example with a bank account.

    Payoneer is just a cheap alternative to open offshore banking.
     
  3. Vonotna

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    Well, I dont know how to help you with the current problem, but hopefully if you do manage to get this sorted out, in the future just find someone reputable or that you know in real life that can receive money and send it to you through something like western union, am sure you can receive money from WU, and why keep 5.5k on paypal man? Maybe if you have like 20k monthly profit..., but in this kind of business its just plain stupid too keep that big amount of money in paypal these days. Learn from mistakes, I just hope you won't need to suffer hard from them also, good luck.
     
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    maybe you could exchange your PayPal money with Moneybookers or something from which you can withdraw to your payoneer.

    Secondly, I'll prefer you to start using 2checkout. You can pay to your own 2co link with paypal and have them withdrawn to payoneer.. Another way is you upload them on freelancer, odesk then sending it to another profile and then withdrawing.
     
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    If you wish you can use my 2co link and I'll then send funds from my payoneer to your payoneer for some extra bucks :D
     
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    Try to upload tracking infos for already shipped orders, this way paypal will release money sooner. Also it take 60 days to monitor your paypal account, and if everything will go well paypal will remove 21 days hold of payments.

    Don't know what to recommend else, best way is to find someone known by you who can help with own accounts for receiving sending payments
     
  7. SirLoki

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    Is it possible for foreigner to open a business in the US without physical presence ? I'm not planning a visit any time soon

    I actually don't keep this kind of money on Paypal. That's the thing, $5000 is from yesterday and today's sales
    This is why my heart is pounding at the moment, I always make sure to withdraw everything because I use the money to fulfill orders. But now I can't since they've blocked Payoneer

    If I buy from my personnal 2CO link, are you sure I'd be able to withraw my "profits" into the Payoneer VBA ? They do support Payoneer ? Also, is there a waiting period for reviewing new accounts or anything of the sort ?
     
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    Someone shared a tip of using freelancer sites to transfer fund. Like you will post a job and fund it with Paypal. Then you accept the job using your 2nd a/c and then transfer the funds to payoneer.
     
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    Yes, just so some google searches you'll find tons of way to open a LLC in remote
     
  10. Balbenberg

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    Ach kat bi3 a sat
     
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  11. TayaX

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    As much as you're proud of speaking the same language as the OP, this is an english speaking forum.
    Reported.
     
  12. youyounes2

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    Hello I'm from Morocco too. and now you can use paypal money without a problem if you had a BMCE account.

    You can withdraw money from paypal and you can purchase online with E-pay card.

    The best option for you is to get a BMCE account. there are no tax and BS if you withdraw from paypal. it's much better than payoneer I think.

    It's not just BMCE, every bank can give you that option. but I only tried BMCE for now.
     
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  13. SirLoki

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    I don't want to withdraw into my money into moroccan banks because they will not allow me to use it afterwards (Limit of $1000/year for foreign purchases)
     
  14. webwhizz

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    dump that ebay account never login again, get a proxy and set up new paypal and send money from old account to that account, register your bank account and withdraw, bank account can be same as first account because they only look for what proxy your paypal was created with, i done this few years back selling drop ship android phones, phones broke after 4 weeks,i was in shit,my paypal was -$400 its always good to have atleast 5 paypal accounts to avoid tax

     
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  15. youyounes2

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    there are no limits anymore. :) I used more than 2000 last year.
     
  16. Bling Bling

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    There are services on the forum that help you get your account unblocked and help you withdraw your money.

    PayPal doesn't like Payoneer's VBA, because it's not a real bank account.

    The solution to this is:

    Open an offshore company in a foreign country. There are many countries that allow you to do that for a small fee + many of them have 0% taxes! They give you a bank account, a merchant account, your own accountant and a lawyer in that country. They charge from $1000 to $2000 per year for that. If you're making some good money as you said, it's worth investing into this.

    A lot of companies are doing this just to not pay taxes.

    There are a lot of small island countries that allow this and have 0% taxes!

    Also there are some bigger countries like Hong Kong and Switzerland that allow this, but they have some taxes. Estonia offers e-citizenship for $50 I think.

    In many of these countries you can open a PayPal business account, because you are registered as a legitimate business in that country.

    I hope this helps.
     
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