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paypal is screwing me over...need advice please

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by keithsol, Feb 21, 2009.

  1. keithsol

    keithsol Junior Member

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    Ok so heres the deal i had a fake paypal with fake name but i put my real address ..dont ask why im a idiot.....anyway it got limited and so i created a real paypal with real cc and real everything.....i had 300$ in that and they limited it cause they linked it back to the old account somehow....now i got to resolve the old account.....they want photo id and credit card statement and i used a vcc......what can i do is a usa pp btw
     
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    caretaker2007 Power Member

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    lol, no, paypal isn't screwing you, you black hatted it and got caught.

    Did you use the same computer and IP# to access both accounts?
     
  3. hotwicked

    hotwicked Regular Member

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    Photoshop is your friend. Use it.

    Everything has to be faxed and so you can't tell documents have been photoshopped in a fax. If you get my hint.
     
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    the_demon Jr. Executive VIP

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    @hotwicked nice tip....

    Except now that I think about it.... when they use the license numbers and look u up. then you have a real problem and just made it a fraud case.
     
  5. keithsol

    keithsol Junior Member

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    ya maybe i should rephrase that sorry guys


    but ya im a idiot on that part also same ip everything
     
  6. hotwicked

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    Really? Where are they looking it up and what did you sign to agree to allow them to do so? let's not mention that IF a number accidently is smeared a bit on the low quality fax it might not be an issue.

    Also not every DL is in the databases unless it was used for credit at some point. ;)
     
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    ya wat if they check the license number and it ends up being fake.....cause i have my real address on the account
     
  8. keithsol

    keithsol Junior Member

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    hmm ok so should i just photoshop a fake id with the name keith kakadia on it but keep my real home address...isnt that a bit risky you think....

    wat about credit card statement also

    thanks for the help btw thanks added
     
  9. the_demon

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    ok a few points.

    - don't need to be in the state/fed DB to be looked up
    - while i don't know specifically where. let's be serious... you think they just want critical information like that for shits and giggles. NO. there running a background check.
    - the low quality fax is a good idea. Perhaps dropping resolution? Hmm.
    - also since you volunteer the information they do not need consent. it's like a gift when given freely they can do anything they want.
    - yes. EVERY drivers license is in a database. In Fact, 3 minimum or more.... Why do u think it takes forever to get your license at the DMV your identy is being cross checked in 3 different databases (I know for a fact).

    ... My Dad used to work in the record transfer business. Buying and selling. While, I haven't asked him (yet) I'm more than sure I'm 100% right. And would be absolutly shocked if I were wrong.

    [side note] Also some states such as west Virginia are now taking finger prints (optional at this point) when you get your license. That way your prints must be scanned before requesting a new or to modify a license to prevent fraud / stolen identity.
     
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  10. hotwicked

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    Find a credit card statement and modify to your info, or a utility bill. They have no right to contact the company for verification, and they won't.
     
  11. hotwicked

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    Paypal doesn't have access to state/fed databases. The only access they will have is by a credit system lookup (whichever they use). As I have said not all DL are in the system.

    If they can't verify things they will either ask for more information or deny things. At that point just drop it and move on. You aren't talking huge amounts of money here.
     
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    Lol...read my threads, dont use PP!! I have lost over $5000 in the paypal!!

    Paypal = Pay to Paypal
     
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    well another problem here is that OP created a legit one. now they know exactly who he is. and if he can't come up with a legit explanation that might cause some serious problems.

    If PayPal were to choose to pursue it OP would have:
    - committed fraud
    - violated TOS
    - stolen identity (technically speaking... It may only apply if you used another person who exists. not to sure on this one.)
     
  14. hotwicked

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    They won't. It's not a big worry. You have to remember that Paypal isn't a real bank as well. ;)
     
  15. keithsol

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    hmm ok so basically create a fake id and fake credit card statement....and im good?
     
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    You also have to remember that businesses with MTLs have to follow a lot of the same banking regulations, so they may as well be. Little things that mean so much, like the freaking Patriot Act and all other anti terror laws that have placed their barriers in the black hatters way.