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Paypal - Grrrrr - Any way round 21 day limit?

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  1. ttmschine

    ttmschine Regular Member

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    I've been using Paypal for years, never had any real problem, have some refunds now and again but nothing out of the ordinary has happened recently. However...

    22 days ago I got an odd message in my Paypal account saying that "since I am a new seller" (I'm NOT), "my funds need to be held for 21 days until I build up some history with Paypal".

    Well, it's now 22 days since my 1st payment after that message, and they STILL haven't released any of the bloody funds.

    Is there any way around this stupid sodding limit? I have £2K in my PP account now and can't get any of it, so am pretty stuck.

    Alternatively what are good payment processors other than Paypal for digital goods and services?

    I can't be having this.
     
  2. Reaver

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    No.

    I use 2CO. They let you accept PP without having a PP account. But you may want to check with them first, bc they may not accept you. It depends on what kind of digital goods and services you're selling.
     
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  3. tz4bu

    tz4bu Junior Member

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    I can lower the amount of days from 21 to 3 days for $30/transaction.
    You pay after you see the number of days was reduced to 3. If you received the payment 3 days ago then it goes available instantly.
     
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    Same situation then they went on to limit my acc for 180 days. So I went ahead and searched like crazy and noone was willing to give me information for free.
    But lucky you https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/im-jr-vip-now-screw-paypal-its-alternatives-solution.894293/
    I am trying to use it already, but any idea what kind of services are only accepted?
     
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    There is a way to make your funds available to withdraw in 3 days.After you received your payment,update the transaction details as "processed" after then ask your client to update the transaction details as 'Received' in PayPal.After they done,your 21 days time limit would have been reduced to 2-3 days.
     
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    certainly someone report you or open case against you :)
     
  7. ttmschine

    ttmschine Regular Member

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    Thanks,
    maybe I'll try this but it's a pain having to ask customers to go out of their way to help - but maybe it's the only way.
     
  8. ttmschine

    ttmschine Regular Member

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    To be sure - no. I think what has happened is that i had a few old email addresses on my paypal account from projects long ago, but when I tried to delete them I got an error.

    I wanted to delete them since I no longer owned the domain names and ficured someone could use that to commit fraud on my paypal account.

    So I contacted paypal to report the problem - whatever they did, I've managed to delete the old emails, but also the "you have a new account" message popped up as well.

    So I suspect they've reset something or done something to the account to allow me to delete old emails, and that's now set my account as "new" so I have to wait 21 days - or longer, because apparently it's 21 days - then 24 to 48 hours after that before the money is available.

    So in other words 23 days - they are a fucking joke.
     
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    Simply call them and clarifiy them the iusse if you have Clean Account without fraud or dispute :)
    i used to flight with them over phone. they are wired some are nice and others are so rude, i used to slove iusses with paypal at whatever it cost
     
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    better you use local merchant accounts for fast payment methods, I hate paypal.
     
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    You mean 2co dot com or 2checkout dot com ? Never heard of it before so hope I don't run into some phishing scammer.
     
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    This is their prohibited products list: https://www.2checkout.com/policies/prohibited-product-list

    2Checkout
     
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  13. liMeseo

    liMeseo Newbie

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    Yes papal will hold your payments for 21 days for buyers safety, and you wont get all the payments ( 2K ) at the same time! Paypal will release the payments which were crossed 21 days, so hope you will get all of your payments if your paypal account is not limited.

    and honestly there is no alternative for paypal, but somehow 2checkout will help you!

    Thanks
     
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    OP - Contact me I am paypal expert and I will surely help you in this regard, seems not big issue to me. PM ME!!!!!
     
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    So here is what you have to do to avoid this problem and some others with selling digital products.
    You have to send a real invoice by real mail with a real tracking number to your customers. Then, you upload the tracking information in your paypal account, and your funds will be realesed within 3 to 7 days. You will also avoid some scams with this method. Good luck
     
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  16. ttmschine

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    Now that is a brilliant idea - thank you, I think this is the way I will go!
     
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    Thats a very long list :0
    This is prohibited ? what does it means?
    • "Direct Marketing- Subscription Sellers"
    And below are some restrictions as they say -
    "
    Restricted products/services are ones which we will support, but with additional documentation and/or differing terms.

    • Events, Seminars, and other live events
    • Essay/Thesis writing services "
    So Will I be able to do webinars if I submit documents or webinars are fine since its on web? ;) But why is writing work restricted? I mean most people do blog posting you know?
    Thanx for the list :)

     
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    Essay and thesis writing is used to mostly help college students pass their classes and get degrees. It's not website content writing. That's why it's restricted.

    I think you'd have to ask about events and seminars. Webinars may or may not fall into that category. But restricted doesn't mean prohibited. It means they may approve you after they get more info, and if they do you will be monitored. Prohibited just means it's not allowed, period.

    As for direct marketing - subscription sellers, you will have you ask them about that. They can give you a very clear definition of what that is. I'm thinking it's like those customer service calls where people try to sell you subscriptions to software or services you don't need. But they can explain it better than I can.

     
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    Sure! You can try it. It will work definitely.All the best mate!;)