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Paypal: enough is enough! Let's beat them!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by dadecotti, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. dadecotti

    dadecotti Power Member

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    I registered 3 times with paypal, of course every time using a different bank account or credit card, I received money from affiliate programs and every time they closed my account.
    I would avoid using paypal but some merchat still use this so I'm force to find a way to keep a Paypal account alive.

    What if a signup with a business account? Will they ask me for proof in future?
    And if I use a VCC, then how can I cashout the money from Paypal?
    Do you have a solution to have a Paypal account and keep it alive?

    Please share your experience!
     
  2. mikeydell

    mikeydell Senior Member

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    I can tell you what has worked for me over the years. Ive always setup business accts, but never verify them, I aways tried to keep the incoming amounts modest, 500 and under , and would transfer the funds to a family members account that was verified. I have no idea why this works for me, but using a individual acct, paypal always figures out some way to limit the accts. The last one was supposedly someone tried to pay me with a stolen card, I guess Im supposed to be able to know when someone is using a stolen acct?? I had another individual acct closed when a scammer tried to say he did not get his item, I fought the case within paypal, and proved he himself signed for the item in question, yet I still lost, so I paid the refund and took the screwing, 24hrs later my paypal acct was closed??? Paypal sucks everyone knows it, but there still isnt any real competitor yet. Try the business account, and use a prepaid card , like the ones you buy in a gas station, The last 3 accounts I setup I signed up with the serve card from american express. Pretty decent card, and will get your account moving with paypal, just make sure you dont verify it. Give only the basic info, and and tie one of those prepaid cards to it. Hope this helps.
     
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  3. dadecotti

    dadecotti Power Member

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    So I setup a business account with my real details and adding a prepaid card?
    But what you mean with "don't verify the account"?
     
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    john1444 Elite Member

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    Get a premier account and link it with your bank account if you are U.S resident..

    You won't have any issue with that..
     
  5. mikeydell

    mikeydell Senior Member

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    Yeah thats what Ive done that has seemed to work. Like I said Im not sure why, also I used three different variations of my name on all three, first one my short version of my first name, with the first prepaid card with same name, second was long version of my name with same name on my prepaid card, third was my full name with JR on the end. Just make sure each prepaid card has the same version of your name when doing it,

    And what I meant with not verifying the acct, was I dont have a bank acct linked to any of them, I just transfer the funds to my family members and they draw the funds out and give me cash, minus a 10% cut for them for the troubles
     
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  6. dadecotti

    dadecotti Power Member

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    Won't they ask you for the proof of company in future?

     
  7. calebmann

    calebmann Power Member Premium Member

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    this same thing happened to me a few years back. so annoying
     
  8. mikeydell

    mikeydell Senior Member

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    If Im not mistaken it only happens if you fully verify the account, all three of mine have been used like this for 9 months so far without issues.
     
  9. rettaibi

    rettaibi Regular Member

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    I think Karma is biting you (check Itrader) :p

    j/k
     
  10. TheViceroy

    TheViceroy BANNED BANNED

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    Unfortunately you can't really "beat" them. That being said, you must be doing something wrong to continuously have your account frozen like that. Are they freezing the accounts for 180 days like they usually do?
     
  11. dadecotti

    dadecotti Power Member

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    yes 180 days to release funds.
    I'm not doing anything wrong, Just receiving money for services from good sources and spending/withdrawing he money