First of all, if this thread shouldn't belong in the Lounge, please move it. Now, in this thread I'm going to show you 2 problems I had this month with Paypal Bank Transfer and eCheck Payments that I received on one of my websites, as well as bring forth information about 2 scammers. So I sell digital goods on a website. ============================================= Scammer 1 - Bank Payments This month I had a guy pay with a Bank Transfer. I never received a payment like that, and I sent the products. After I did that I saw on Paypal that they say I should not send any products until the payment has cleared, and that the payment was Pending. Okay, I fucked up there by allowing the products to be delivered, but I was still hoping the payments would eventually clear. Here are those 2 payments: http://oi65.tinypic.com/11mb0cj.jpg http://oi63.tinypic.com/osaemr.jpg (sorry, tried attaching the images here, but I kept getting "exceeded your quota" error) About 10 days later, naturally, the payments were cancelled. Here are the screenshots: http://oi68.tinypic.com/11r4xef.jpg http://oi64.tinypic.com/2w65i8n.jpg I'm putting the information I have about this guy in writing here too (so that they are searchable on the net): Name: Andrjuha Kuliwajit Address: Brückmanweg 44328 Dortmund Germany Email: [email protected] Username on my site: Ruseeek One of his purchases were followers for an Instagram account, so here: https://www.instagram.com/RXSLAX/ (looks like a fucking faggot!) ============================================= Scammer 2 - eCheck Payments This guy bought a bunch of stuff. Honestly, about 2 years ago I made some cash writing on Bubblews, and they always paid with an eCheck. So I had a good experience with eChecks. Wasn't that suspicious. I sent the products to the guy. Here are his payments: http://oi65.tinypic.com/2q84xm9.jpg http://oi65.tinypic.com/30tl3x0.jpg http://oi63.tinypic.com/r7vfde.jpg http://oi64.tinypic.com/atw8sm.jpg http://oi63.tinypic.com/sq2iqh.jpg http://oi63.tinypic.com/263x56f.jpg A few days later, naturally, the payments were cancelled. Here are the screenshots: http://oi64.tinypic.com/2znwv8n.jpg http://oi68.tinypic.com/2vx3pf7.jpg http://oi68.tinypic.com/2ryt5pz.jpg http://oi66.tinypic.com/20u36o3.jpg I'm putting the information I have about this guy in writing here too (so that they are searchable on the net): Name: Kortingcashback Address: Singelstraat 119 6828 JZ Arnhem Netherlands Email: [email protected] Registration email on my site: [email protected] Username on my site: mrvanosch City/Country: Amsterdam, Noord-holland, Netherlands ISP/IP: Vodafone Fixed (18.104.22.168) His website (or one of them): https://www.kortingcashback.nl/ ============================================= Moral of the story: NEVER ship anything if you receive a Bank or an eCheck payment UNTIL the payment clears. Best course of action is to inform your customer that you have to wait until their payment clears before you can ship/send what they purchased to them. In my case... after sending the products and then getting the cancelled payments emails from Paypal some days later... I've sent both of these guys an email, politely asking that they get back to me about this "mistake." But I'm not holding my breath, as you might imagine. If any one of them gets back to me and resolves his failed payments, I will come back here and edit my thread (or ask a mod to edit it in case I can't), or reply below informing about it. That's it. Beware everyone! Seller beware!