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PART 2: Dropshipping Journey to a Consistent $10k per Month

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by PBNSurprise, Oct 2, 2019.

  1. l0ner

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    Nice journey following your post and If you are using aliexpress . I am releasing a full automated tool for managing , importing products and fulfilling orders with mobile support soon. I can give you a copy when it comes out.
    Hopefully corona goes down soon too
     
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    I just want to add something here--don't let yourself get caught up believing that you'll never be able to pick winners. I think you will, but like any other skill, it takes time to develop. Think about how many hours you've put into product selection. Only sitting there analyzing if a product is worthwhile or not. Is it 10 hours? 100? I'm sure you know what I'll say next--it can take a thousand or more hours to become proficient in a skill.

    So even though you are going to have to do a LOT of testing to figure out what works, the truth is that all of that time is investing in yourself as well. Your ability to analyze and interpret data will only improve as time goes on.

    You're building an internal winner-picking algorithm that your brain runs, give it as much data as you can and it will improve!
     
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  3. PBNSurprise

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    that is true. yeah right now i'm just blindly testing from ecomhunt. not completely random though, i vet each product by checking amazon reviews and reading comments. if the product is high rated and there's good video content i can use, then i'll test the product. otherwise i'll just skip it
     
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    UPDATE:

    fuck i'm still on this journey at $0 per day haha. oh man, corona virus fucked me up. oh well, nothing i can do. only thing i can do is just keep taking action and praying

    will continue to test more and more and more. will try a few more products then review
     
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  5. PBNSurprise

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    UPDATE:

    just put up a new product to test after 2 days of website creation and making creatives. spent $25 and no ATCs, no IC, no purchase. basically the product failed. no time to cry about that though. already planning another product i'm going to launch. can probably get started on the site for it tonight

    one after another. testing testing, not giving a shit if one product fails, cause immediately i'm already on to the next product. in fact, after this next product goes bust, i already have another product i'm going to test. and then after that goes bust i'll have another one ready as well
     
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  6. Arafel187

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    So each time you make a new store with a single product to test it?
    Or you using a general store and if the product runs well you make for him a single store?
    It's not better to test with a simple landing page? and after making a store.

    I'm on the same journey as you, thinking about a way to test products more faster.
    Need to solve this problem.

    Maybe i will ask Siri which of the products is the winner one :D
     
  7. PBNSurprise

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    yeah basically, i make a brand new store for each product i test
     
  8. PBNSurprise

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    UPDATE:

    shit i've been at this journey for a while now lol. still testing. tested my first product since corona virus and that failed, as i've said. currently making the site for the next product. should have the site done by today and maybe the ad creatives as well. got a head start on it last night

    done fucking around with this lol. literally full speed constant fucking testing one after another back to back. won't stop until i find something that cracks. my sites and creatives end up looking solid too i must admit. i cut the clips nicely and spike emotions with my copy. i think i know how to advertise and write in a way that sells to people's emotions. it's just finding the right product now
     
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  9. lookzor

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    Your previous journey and even the one now is full of constant mistakes and no patience. Most products can be winners if you target them right. It sounds like you're not even giving them a chance or the facebook algorithm to work its magic.

    Even so, if you have no social following, or proof and negative comments start to come in then your business isn't going to last long. Have you checked online reviews of your brand or its BBB/Trustpilot rating if it has one?

    If you're shipping from China, maybe you've exhausted the audience willing to wait that amount of time for shipping. Unlikely, but always worth looking into.

    Maybe the product isn't as evergreen as you thought or has as big of an audience as you thought, or maybe there's other competitors?

    Even with all these issues to look into, doesn't look like you're treating this like a business. Because gambling on one product working via one paid traffic source is not a business. Every multi-million dollar one product brand has more than just working Facebook Ads. They have successful social accounts, endorsements, email sequences and tons of feedback. They have a funnel from start to finish that's powerful and makes the most out of every person who views their brand.

    IF you are going to just keep looking for that winning product (which I personally don't recommend), at the very least stop opening new websites and start a general store with a standard name. It makes little difference given the stage you're at to keep opening new ones as opposed to just sending people to specific product pages on one store. It reduces costs and let's you rapidly test new ads/products daily. The idea being you keep finding new winners and anything that explodes and shows huge growth can be taken and made a brand out of. And when I mean brand, I mean more than what you've done up until now.

    General stores are easy to run and maintain (and keep profitable) when you have a testing budget and an unlimited number of products to keep testing daily. Look to HYGOshop which is a popular dropshipping general store that sells so many different things and has 100's of ads for different products. It just works. Stop spending on new sites and build 1 general store. Reduce your cost and risk.

    Personally, I've chosen a niche like the dog niche for example, and I've built a brand around it. Social accounts, my own brand messaging and voice. I have an e-mail sequence new subscribers go through, social proof and active social accounts. On site reviews and regularly answer and clear up disputes on sites like Trustpilot and BBB. I work on my site SEO, I have blog articles and even on product pages or catalogs I have keyword rich descriptions written for humans.

    I have built a network that gets traffic from more than just paid traffic, but also gets it organically from Social accounts and organic search. I then have paid advertising with FB/IG and Google Shopping. If one goes down the other is still picking up the slack.

    If you're using standard shopify policies, especially the shipping and refund policy. Rework them asap. They need to be written in a more relatable voice that your audience understands and have a huge impact on sales too.

    There's so much more, but too much to add. You learn it through trial-and-error and listening to more youtube videos from others.

    Goodluck, I sincerely hope you take this advice to heart because it'll save you a lot of money and headaches.
     
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    Yblackhat,check dis out
     
  11. PBNSurprise

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    plz do not provide me with unsolicited and bashing advice. i glanced at what you wrote here and it looks like all bashing bullshit talk. not gonna believe a random guy on the internet with zero experience whatsoever to show for it. nor do i care

    btw a general store is not a good idea because your pixel data will be a bunch of unrelated products bunched together. that's one i make a dedicated store for each product. but anyway i'm not here to argue with you. plz take your arguments to another thread. this thread is for my journey forward
     
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    UPDATE:

    fuckkkk, i made a website and 3 creatives in 1 day. god damn, i'm getting faster at this, literally a DAY i can get everything up. today i'm gonna run the ads now. they're approved. gonna clean up a few things on the site then run it for like $30 spend. if i can't get at least 1-2 purchases then will probly kill the product. at $30-35 spend i assume at LEAST one purchase to be honest
     
  13. lookzor

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    If you honestly think that was bashing then you can't be helped. Most of the people here are just some random person you don't know. My post was full of a ton of useful advice from someone who is actually succeeding with Shopify + Dropshipping and now my own fulfilment. If you're as intelligent as you say you are you might take into consideration the advice of others rather than call it bullshit talk. Every point I covered was important to being able to continue to sell products especially if they are being shipped from China. You can't keep a business going off one product via just Facebook Ads with none of the rest long term.

    General stores do work and it is the same thing for what you're doing. You can have more than one pixel on a store and a pixel per product. Facebook also optimises on the Adset level so even with unrelated products if you keep a product within the same Adset it'll optimise for that one.

    You can also create product sets or use a shopify App like Trackify to tag each of your products with unique tags so you can target them on Facebook Ads.

    In fact a smarter way would also be to test products via broad dynamic prospecting and seeing which Facebook finds is most profitable.

    Anyway, re-read my post and take a hard think about whether I'm bashing you or trying to help. I think you'll find it's the latter.
     
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  14. PBNSurprise

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    nah fuck off. you don't know what my plan is. so just leave me alone
     
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    UPDATE:

    just deployed my ads for this new product i put up. results are looking cheap and above 10 second avg watch times. video is 28 seconds long. $5 deep into ad spend, no sales or ATCs yet. will let it run til like $30-35. my break even CPP is $25. we'll see what happens. this product was definitely a pain in the ass to put up, it has 34 variants which i think is one reason the product is well liked, different options and shit

    if i can't get a sale after like $35 i'll probably kill this one, we'll see
     
  16. lookzor

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    That's great language, keep telling me to fuck off child. All your posts are full of language with fuck this and fuck that. An easy thanks but no thanks is also fine.

    Grow up. I wont be posting anymore advice to help you, you're too egotistical.
     
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  17. PBNSurprise

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    that's good, i appreciate you not "posting anymore advice to help you"

    good stuff
     
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    UPDATE:

    shit just tested another product and it failed. put down like $35 on ads for it. breakeven CPP is $25. low engagement, no sales, no ATCs. this is the second product i'm on since corona virus. so far both products failed. fuck

    gonna get a head start on another product tonight. already know what i'm gonna test next. i should have this next site fully done by thursday night. still debating on what product after this next one. have a few ideas, but they all seem like low quality products that i don't think will sell. i'll probably end up still testing them to be honest. my thing is, i don't KNOW what product is gonna be a winner because my talent for this shit. so i'm mainly focusing on which products are highly rated on amazon. the products that are getting consistent 4.5-5 stars are the ones i test, because it means that everyone loves these products

    i'm hoping to strike a winner soon. i just need something that starts making sales quickly. that way i can scale up very very fast, make 200k+ in profits in a few months, then quickly rinse and repeat with another product. that's the plan. the issue is finding these winning products. there's a shit ton of products on ecom hunt. and there's so many ways to source products online. it's all the same bullshit though. just the same products, little gadgets, tools, and devices, that keep getting repeated over and over again. ecomhunt should have a decent amount of very profitable products on EACH page. it's just about finding those products. i believe my marketing is pass-able. i'm literally using info from product reviews and appealing to emotion. putting both elements into my product pages and video ads. literally not much more to it than that

    and so we go, more testing
     
  19. PBNSurprise

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    you can't use 1 facebook pixel per product. the facebook pixel goes on the entire store. a general store could work for testing but there are advantages to starting with a 1 product store right away. one advantage is that i'm positioned to start scaling right away if the product is a winner. if i had a general store i would have to create a fresh store for a winner anyway. that could take a day or two. then let's say i transfer my pixel data to the new 1 product store. there is no guarantee that my initial successful results would replicate. sure the general store would help me by saving on domain costs. but really it make actually cost me in terms of shopify subscriptions and app fees

    whenever i create a 1 product store i only pay for the domain, $14, and that's it. i don't pay the shopify fee or the two app fees that i use. this is because all 3 of those have 2 week free trials. i'm already running and testing in just a few days. so i kill the store right afterward to avoid getting charged. so really my only loss is $14 for the domain. and of course the advertisement costs. there's also the time to create each website which is honestly not that hard. i have files on my hard drive that i literally copy and paste each time to speed up the process by 10x

    the reality is, general store for testing or 1 product store for testing can both work. my real problem is actually finding these winning products. how i get there is irrelevant, as long as i don't spend too much money doing it
     
  20. lookzor

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    https://apps.shopify.com/trackify-1...&surface_intra_position=4&surface_type=search

    In any case, you do you I gave my own experience and advice. You don't necessarily need more than 1 pixel if you use a tag manager like this to track different products and events. But if you wanted to, Facebook allows an initial 10 pixels which an app can let you add to your website rather than just 1, and you can get that amount constantly increased.

    My own store tracks over 1,000 products via trackify tags and product sets on Facebook all under 1 pixel. I'm in one niche though but it's only a little different for a general store. It's still going to be a headache finding winners, and then milking them and back to square one after the winning product is milked or stops performing.

    It's going to be hard because these one product sites and associated FB pages are new and don't have any social proof or feedback which is where your conversion rates go up. For me, I run a few main campaigns, on a broad prospecting dynamic campaign separated by tags and product sets. I don't create any visual ad creatives, I only play with the targeting (which is broad anyway) and give it a simple description.

    Facebook then just determines which of my products are currently hottest and matches them up to an audience that I can take to an LAA.
     
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