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Parasiting and PA 1

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SirLouen, Nov 11, 2015.

  1. SirLouen

    SirLouen Junior Member

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    I can't understand the basics of why parasiting is good for BH SEO purposes.
    Basically you open a subsite on a high DA but starting with 1 PA can last forever.

    For instance: If for example lets say Youtube is the best parasiting site, why not opening 200 pages in youtube?
    I suppose the GSE algorithm considers that more different domains linking, better positioning.

    I've been trying to start with youtube video, and what I see after 2 months, is that PA is stucked in 1 (while other domains I've bought can get PA 10 in 2 months easily). Same happens with a sub-blog inside a blog network of a magazine: PA 1 after 3 months (DA of the magazine:70)

    But for example, I created a blog in a low DA site domain (30), and an article I wrote 1 month ago, already achieved 5 PA.

    Eventually, PA and DA are not the sole metrics that explain how the GSE alg is going to rank, but I find that maybe focusing efforts on parasitism is less worthy that spending the same time on our own PBN.
     
  2. UptonGoodwin

    UptonGoodwin Power Member

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    If you have a youtube video that is PA 1 after 2 months, my guess is you didn't do anything to promote it, didn't build backlinks, you must have done literally nothing other than upload the video.

    The point with parasites is that you can spam a bunch of links at it and get authority built to it without Google caring as much because it's a big domain that gets a flood of links pointed at it everyday.
     
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    Parasite = Launder. You point to them backlinks you would never point to your money site. If you don't build backlinks to them, they are just usual web2.0's, not parasites.
     
  4. Seowarlords

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    Why are you so obsessed on PA? You should concentrate on the keyword rankings, not on MOZ's PA.
     
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    virtualbyron Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Because links from high PA rank the keywords may be ?
     
  6. Seowarlords

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    That's for real?
     
  7. SirLouen

    SirLouen Junior Member

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    It's a good reference from my POV


    Worst part? I did the same to promote both pages...
    I even injected a higher quantity of social signals in the 2.0 than in the other (may be 50% more).

    So is totally pointless for me. I'm starting to think that parasiting methods are second tier average rankers. Possibly taking the time to maintain a huge quality PBN in all terms (not only SEO in-page, fog for the footprints and good research job, but also, doing some linkbuilding, despite most of the people believe that PBN rank by themselves), because I've observed that linkbuilding to the PBN PA1 subpages, grows incredibly faster than linkbuilding to PA1 parasites.

    Possibly this has been discussed plenty of time, but I have the intuition that Google Algorithm, use some type of "business type classification" to domains, some kind of majestic's "category trust flow" that for example, if your business is about "shoes" and you make google put your PBN blog into that category, will rank better articles into shoes industry, than a random video in "youtube" that could be classified into "blogging and social" industry, so It ranks worse, for example.

    I've seen people using local SEO with youtube videos, ranking really well, for example: "Car repair service in Springfield" YT video ranking #1, but I'm sure that if that same was done into a DA 40 car blog topic into an article called "Car repair service in Springfield" with the same linkbuilding job, and the full On-site for that keywording, it would have ranked faster, and more solid.

    The only thing I believe parasites could work better than PBN subpages, are for resisting blasts or negative SEO.
     
  8. fc-dh

    fc-dh Elite Member

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    Why don't you people get that MOZ DA MEANS NOTHING, it is a very weak metric at best...

    Good parasites get trust from Google, (also called domain authority) if i put a article on topix for a low level comp/longtail keywords i get ranked on the first page without links, the page can the article is on can be DA0 (and i mean real DA not that crap MOZ shows you) and still get a top 3 ranking with NO backlinks at all.

    Midlevel keywords need some backlinks, could be articles, blog comments, forum postings, some social media shares

    High level keywords need a lot of backlinks, depending on your strategy, yo can do it with the above methods and ad PBN's r just GSA blasts

    You should read T0mmy's thread about parasites, cus i don't think you crasp the concept very well.






     
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  9. SirLouen

    SirLouen Junior Member

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    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...9-parasites-pwn-leeching-authority-sites.html ?
     
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  10. SirLouen

    SirLouen Junior Member

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    Anyway I was talking about PA, but I've been thinking on that lately.
    It's like a clutching at the last straw... but for me sometimes it is some metric to stay tuned of the evolution of certain page (not the whole domain), in terms of SEO and specially related to the promotion effort done to link certain page or another.
    Since I can't "utmize" all the urls just some type of indirect referencing for SEO purposes.

    Surprisingly enough, I've woken up today to see that my youtube video has achieved 47 PA suddenly

    I was having huge doubts about Moz, but now my suspicions have come true... moz is near to uselessland!
     
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    Why do you post your post on a black background with black letters?

    PA doesn't main shit either.
     
  12. SirLouen

    SirLouen Junior Member

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    It happened because I quoted your last message and It took that color.

    BTW I'm using the white theme, so I didn't notice that issue :)
     
  13. UptonGoodwin

    UptonGoodwin Power Member

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    It happens because BHW defaults to pasting text with formatting. So if someone copys and pastes text that's set to black color, it pastes to black color.