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Paranoid Torrent-addicted Newbie.. has anyone been subpoenaed?

Discussion in 'Torrents' started by chicklet, Jun 20, 2012.

  1. chicklet

    chicklet Newbie

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    Hey guys,

    So I'm a bit of torrent addict and a computer/internet novice. I sorta work around the tech field but not to the point where I'm required to understand how all this torrenting works. In any case, I've had a few friends who have had their web providers subpoenaed by companies they [friends] "allegedly" downloaded from, demanding to know the identity of such friends. The companies were only able to ascertain my friends' IP addy.. this is all making me kind of paranoid now. Would anyone mind sharing with me how these companies are able to catch torrent-ers and how said torrentors can hide from them? I've been reading up a lot about VPN's and proxies, and wouldn't even mind paying a few bucks a month so long as the VPN/proxy service is anonymously secure and offers a decent download speed.

    Anyways. Thanks for all the info in advance!

    ~Chickie
     
  2. TacoFiesta

    TacoFiesta Newbie

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    torrentfreak will have a lot of that info
     
  3. TacoFiesta

    TacoFiesta Newbie

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    V P S, proxies.. so on. There are new programs in the works that have private and anonymous connections.
    If you go to that site you should find the answers pretty easily, they are a news and info site.
    They post a few news stories everyday
     
  4. chicklet

    chicklet Newbie

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    does demonoid count as a "private" site? i've been trying to get an invite code forever!
     
  5. conrad

    conrad Regular Member

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    demonoid is probably the most public "private" torrent site.. i would not consider them private at all, but they like to consider themselves private
     
  6. BigFatWallet

    BigFatWallet Power Member

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    If you are paranoid about using torrents on your ip then get a seedbox and download your stuff via FTP from seedbox to your computer.
     
  7. hawke

    hawke Power Member

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    That, or use your neighbors Internet :p
     
  8. Aegroeg

    Aegroeg Regular Member

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    Never you mind.
    So they are now actively shutting people down?

    My ISP ( BT ) announced they would instantly cut off your internet if you went to BT Junkie, ISOhunt, etc. I cancelled that week and went to another ISP.

    Sorry I am not sure how they do this, but all I know is BT in particular are alerted as soon as your IP visits certain websites and they cut you off. Other ISPs are currently in court with the government to tackle this. No-one wants that hanging over their company.
     
  9. inspairs

    inspairs Newbie

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    private trackers + seedbox = win

    you will never go back to public trackers.. seedboxes are cheap too.
     
  10. oxonbeef

    oxonbeef BANNED BANNED

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    British Telecom, the U.K.'s largest broadband provider, is the last ISP to comply with a court order blocking access to The Pirate Bay. But the block was futile and circumvented in a matter of minutes.


    British Telecom became the final broadband provider in the U.K. to block customer access to the The Pirate Bay following a court order forcing the move in April.


    From around 12 midday BST on Tuesday, more than six million BT customers were faced with a "site blocked" message when trying to access the Magnet-link sharing site.






    Some users were surprised to find that Web addresses and IP addresses that still worked for other broadband providers still threw up a blocked message.


    It later transpired that BT had actively gone above and beyond in blocking access to the site from what the court order dictated. BT also cut off access to number of proxy websites used to bypass the block, but many new proxies are being added each day.


    But it took literally minutes for customers to circumvent the block, partially thanks to a server IP address change by the site's operators.


    In April, five of the largest U.K. broadband providers — Virgin Media, Everything Everywhere, Sky, O2 and Be, and TalkTalk — were told to impose server-level blocks to prevent their collective 13 million customers access to The Pirate Bay.


    BT was left out of the initial court order to grant the telcoms giant extra time to "consider its position." Rumours suggested the telecommunications giant could enter into a deal with the British Phonographic Industry, the British record industry's trade association, which brought the case to the High Court in London in the first place.


    The total figure of blocked users represents roughly one-third of the U.K.'s population, and almost the entire U.K.'s broadband-using customer base.


    According to TorrentFreak, an "immediate response" by the Swedish-based site was to enable two new IP addresses — .82 and .83 — within minutes of the BT block coming into effect.


    A site insider said they can "continue adding new addresses for years." Without another judicial intervention, there's little that can be done about it.


    And so the cat-and-mouse game continues.


    Proxy websites are in high demand following the court order. The U.K.'s Pirate Party operates the most popular proxy, which allows users to access The Pirate Bay through a different server, and is now among the top 600 most visited websites in the United Kingdom.


    The Pirate Bay switched to a Swedish .se top-level domain earlier this year, with the site's founders claiming the Web address would no longer be susceptible to U.S. laws, unlike the .org top-level domain.


    .SE senior legal counsel Elisabeth Ekstrand said in a company blog post that the domain name registrar has "not taken any actions following the ruling against TPB since we do not consider ourselves obligated to do so," but warned it has always had "the right to take action based on a ruling against us pertaining to a specific domain name." ZDNet's Liam Tung has more.


    BT declined to comment when approached by ZDNet.
     
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  11. shurk

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    It's easy to find which IP's are currently downloading a certain torrent, you just download the torrent yourself and open it in a Torrent client. The fully featured clients will show who you are connected to and vice versa. The companies that act on behalf of Big Content then timestamp and note your IP and send it to your ISP requesting to know which client was using that specific IP at that time. If it's under a court order, most likely the ISP will comply.

    Essentially, where ever you use your credit card (or any form of electronic payment), there is a 'paper' trail. This almost renders a VPN useless as it can be linked to you. It's difficult to be 100% safe and anonymous particularly in countries like the US and UK. Find VPN suppliers who accept truly anon payments (Ukash for example), however, be warned that the VPN supplier could be given a court order to release your details (Ie: where you were connecting to their service from).

    It's been a while since I torrented, however;

    Turn DHT (Distributed Hash Tables) off.
    Force encryption on (then your ISP can't see that you are using torrents)
    Don't use standard BT Ports, switch to something else. 22 isn't a bad call as it can be used for SSH/SFTP.
    Don't upload - Your a prime target if your upping 0days, not just from the Police/Big Content, it's possible you can get doxed by pissed 'Scene' members.

    I used to use private (Invite only) trackers, and keep moving, I was on a few 'private' sites that got busted. It seems that as soon as they get some momentum, they get shut down (Probably because distribution is much better organized on these sites). I would advise against public trackers, however some people feel it is a smaller risk (More people, less chance of being singled out).

    Other people like to get seed boxes in countries where the Copyright laws are more relaxed. I never got into this tho so I can't offer any advice. And some others like to use programs such as ProtoWall and PeerGuardian, these block connections to addresses based on blacklists, these lists usually contain the known IP address of Gov and Big Content. However, I found that this often made surfing the internet difficult, and as I explained previously, it is still possible to see who is in the swarm. You also need to keep the lists up to date, I generally found them more hassle than it was worth.

    If you get caught: Your neighbour hizacked your wireless! ;)
     
  12. chicklet

    chicklet Newbie

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    haha well I work closely to the legal technical field. for the most part, most of the clients I've seen caught were downloading porn. One of them was even a reverend!! lol!!
     
  13. ajdehuff

    ajdehuff Newbie

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    Very true about private sandbox or dedicated VPN being best bet and honestly with all the software available is more than worth the cost. I use torrents for my own software needs which aren't much plus a ton of movies/shows/android apps. I used HMA for a while and often said I was protected and turned out my IP was butt naked to the world for the entire day prior to me noticing it reading a false green light stating I was connected to a server when I was just surfing exposed. I am an active & daily Torrent DLer, prior to HMA and since cancelling I have used Peerblock, it's interesting to see who starts trying to Ping your IP when using it, kinda scary actually. I have never received anything, often have downloaded torrents where others started complaining it was being tracked and getting warning or cut off from ISP, especially lately with any HBO related torrents. I still have never been hit with exception of having a forgotten copy of Hunger Games Cam in my public Dropbox I was letting a friend DL, Fox or Time Warner saw it and made a DMCA complaint to drop box and I lost my account with them but other than that I have been clear, although based on who pings my IP according to Peer Block I am on somebody's radar, unless everyone has anti P2P groups pinging them all day. This has primarily been on Demonoid if not then Piratebay & that's correct it is now essentially become an open to public minus some Download restrictions to non-members. Trying to get an invite to somewhere safer and more trustworthy. I have invites though and will be happy to give as many out as I can as I noticed a fellow newb mentioned wanting one. PM me and will hook you up, on same hand any invites to other private sites would be more than greatly appreciated. 4x Seed Ratio, only comments are to thank and comment on A/V when necessary. Best of luck, just remember the saying you just have to run faster than the guy next to you when the bear attacks and you'll be alright. BTW I realize that was very stupid of me to leave in my public dropbox, glad all i lost was account.
     
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