I think it is obvious specially to BHers that Google like any other big technology organization has no chance in winning a technology war against the crowd. Look at security companies, they invest billions until some 16 years old kid comes and hack the hell out of them. Now, its not that a 16 years old kid got any chance against them for the long-term, but statistically there will always be some 16 years old kid that will kick their asses. Same for SEO. No matter what Google will do, how heavy Panda they will throw at us, there will always be the next BH method that will work. As big as Google can be it will never have the men power or the total men brain as we have, we are the people So, Googles only chance is by winning psychologically, making us be afraid, confused, making us not even try. Look at all of those who are writing Big G, G, Brother G instead of Google. Fear! Doesn't it remind you "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named"? Since the Panda update, I see lots of thread of people crying "Panda just killed my site"/"Another Panda update just killed my site"/etc... The only thing that is killing you site is the lack of understanding what Google can do at the moment, what they will be able to do soon enough, what is their immediate interest and what they will have lots of troubles implementing if ever. Here is a key concept: If there is one major BH method that EVERYONE are using (hmmm... lets say, profile blasts), is it logical that it will last forever? Will Google fail (or put it in low priority) to know how to handle it forever? If you answer yes, your sites are "dead sites walking". On the other hand, many agree that their methods are temporary, but still they use it cause they are currently working, but when some day all their sites crash, cause those "geniuses" used the same methods and only those methods although they new they are temp, on all their sites. Actually when coming to think of it, Google second tool against us is our laziness, we think, well, all I need to rank my sites is to run my xrumer server and blast my sites/web 2.0 properties/other tiers and when the day will come that it will not work I'll find some other method. Well, when that day comes you find yourself with no income (or a serious drop of income) and many times with slow chance to recover your sites. Anyway, all I wanted to say, is Google got no chance against us who think long term and act to survive long term. Meaning - noobs get hurt first (hmmm... which might be a good thing ).