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[PANDA] Dance - Sandbox - Web 2.0 - where is my investment?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by VaLeRyA, Nov 17, 2011.

  1. VaLeRyA

    VaLeRyA Regular Member

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    I'll try to explain my work step by step.
    How do i get visits with my main activity?

    1. Money Site (MAIN) -> 2 Money Site (secondary)
    3. Satelites Sites (niches,autoblogs)
    4. Linkpushing, Backlinkfuel, Blackholeseo, Gbuster
    5. Web 2.0, Likes, Feedburners, G+, Bookmarks, Directorys
    6. Dripable, xrumer, scrapebox.

    my content is original? = in my 3 money sites yes
    The content of my sites is useful for my visits? = in my 3 money sites yes
    I have good backlinks? = Yes
    few years ago my sites were established? = 2005 - 2008 as yet

    that's wrong with that?

    My main site, the work manually.
    My child sites, the work manually and contract services.
    After the change of algorithm by google.
    My secondary sites drop serps #2-#10 to #50-60 "only G"
    my main site grew a little

    what happens ? I do not understand I'm doing wrong
    my secondary sites are penalized? dancing? sandbox?
    because many sites with few backlinks or farming rank before the mine?
    I have to keep investing money in services?

    hope can help me, any contribution will be welcome

    :bonappeti
     
  2. Aesthetics

    Aesthetics Newbie

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    Need more pics of you for clarification.
     
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  3. huzah

    huzah Newbie

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    Hands above the table at all times, please. Now lets stop polluting this topic with useless replies :eek:
     
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  4. eldran

    eldran Junior Member

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    PM me your URL i would be happy to do a free analysis of your site - i can tell you exactly why it is penalized (if it is) and what you can do to fix it
     
  5. HarrisonHill

    HarrisonHill Regular Member

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    Well, your sites seem quite legit and aged and it shouldn't have any problems like sandbox.

    Sandbox = when you search site:yourdomain.com in google, your site doesn't show up.

    Dance = when after link building campaign your site jumps to the end of the search results, like to #200+ position. But it turns back in about a week.

    All I can say is, keep building links. Add more sources. Do some social bookmarking, get some edu links, authority links, get some homepage backlinks, article backlinks, web 2.0 links, some shitty sbox links (they do help a lot), and in the end, keep adding fresh and unique content to your site.
     
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  6. sidaz

    sidaz Regular Member

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    Seems lot of money spent on services
     
  7. phans

    phans Junior Member

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    i don't want to be a smart ass but if you can't find your site this way it's deindexed if it's sandboxed you will still find it
     
  8. VaLeRyA

    VaLeRyA Regular Member

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    Let us analyze, because not everything is the same
    Dancing = drop position (#200+ or #50+ ????) sites Were Well positioned
    Sandbox = drop position for new url
    PR drop = half penalty
    de-index = full penalty

    I'm close or far from the truth?
     
  9. VaLeRyA

    VaLeRyA Regular Member

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    add this data
    EMD Search G World Before drop: 5
    EMD Search G World Now: 88

    Second KW S G World Before drop: 5
    Second KW S G World Now: 53

    Other Kw S G World Before drop: 2
    NOW: 42

    that could be?

    One Site drop 13 sep
    other site drop 16 nov

    The first site is in the same place...
     
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  10. Scripteen

    Scripteen Elite Member

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    No this means deindexed = ban.

    Sand boxed is when you are not showing in serps even for your domain.
     
  11. SuperLinks

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    The biggest thing I noticed in your strategy is the lack of high quality links. Granted I'm not completely familiar with all of the services you have mentioned, but the ones I am familiar with, while effective, aren't "high quality". By quality I mean links that pass along a fuckton of linkjuice, not Web 2.0 directories, linkwheels, or other lower quality links supported by XRumer and Scrapebox.

    While those work and should be used in linkbuilding profiles, they shouldn't be the be all and end all of backlinks.

    My personal recommendation would be to first take a look at ways you can get yourself high PageRank backlinks.

    Second, are you targeting more keywords than ONLY one? Are you targeting more pages than only your homepage?

    Ideally you should have 70% of your links go to your internal pages, and only 30% to the homepage. Remember that each page on your site is a page that has an opportunity to rank. Don't neglect the rest of your site. While you never explicitly stated that you aren't targeting other keywords/pages I always like to mention that.

    Finally, since you are using a lot of "link wheels", Web 2.0's, and XR & SB, are you linking to tier 2's & tier 3's and using the automated linkbuilding tools to help support those links? If not you should be as that's the best strategy for those type of links. Don't send all of the links to only your tier 1. Be sure you are building out multiple tiers for those types of links.