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Paid traffic to CPM

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by IMATA, Aug 2, 2011.

  1. IMATA

    IMATA Junior Member

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    Lately I've been thinking about scaling things up by using paid traffic.

    Anyways, yesterday I was checking Flippa and saw these auctions by a new seller with a model based on paid traffic. Basically, they were doing arbitrage by buying traffic on bulk and then sending it to their sites. On these sites, they'd put 3 banners per page and sell those ad spaces on Adbrite, charging CPM. ROI was unreal, like 1000%.

    Traffic came from all over the world and prices were about $85/100,000 visitors. Even though they claim these were all real people interested in these offers, I doubt this was the case, based on country of origin and time on page (I do believe they were real people though, not bots).

    Anyways, doesn't really matter this particular case, but here's my question:

    Has any of you been working on such a model (paid traffic to CPM in particular)?

    To the ones who have:

    What's your experience with such a model in the long run? Could you put me in contact with any decent traffic provider? Have you been working with Adbrite or selling at any other decent marketplace you could tell me about?

    Please, only answer if you've actually had some experience with this.

    Thanks and feel free to PM me if you feel it would be more appropriate. (BTW, just studying my options atm, so no promises).
     
  2. IMATA

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    Bump. So nobody knows about sending paid traffic to CPM Adbrite ads?
     
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    could you post where exactly in flippa, are you sure that isn't fake Photoshopped statement?
     
  4. IMATA

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    Here you go:
    https://flippa.com/2632069-2-460-month-on-autopilot-total-investment-opportunity

    That's the last one. You can check the rest of them by login in, clicking on their profile and checking under "Listings".

    Read the comments on this one, also. Prices on the traffic they're using seem to be even lower than I said before. They do say they are traffic providers themselves. I tried to contact them to cut a deal on traffic only but was not succesful (no surprise there).

    Since these guys are pretty new, they're selling sites and traffic for cheap and their feedback is scarce at best, yes, there is a chance this is fake. Very common these days on Flippa. I tried to check the whois of 2 or 3 of the older sites to try and contact the new owners but they were set to private.

    In any case, my post goes beyond this particular case. I've been checking google and you can indeed buy 100,000 targeted visitors for $200-$300 on big niches like the ones they're using and that would suffice to make a good profit. Point is, does this work in the long run with Adbrite (I've heard Adsense wouldn't accept it)? Is this a reliable model in the long run?
     
  5. Spider786

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    Well These guys on Flippa are selling site based on 3 days traffic and revenue. The blogs they are selling have articles which are of poor quality. These sites take at most 3 to 4 hrs to make. They have managed to sell sites worth almost $36000 in one month. Adbrite will take time to catch up with these guys. They are smart they just send 75,000 visitors and sell site.

    I don't think you want to do it in the long run just do it like these guys are doing(Scam in my view) there are lots of places you can find cheap traffic. if you get this return

    Traffic source
    cheaptraffic org
    1 Million Visitors - $260.47

    They claim to use redirected visitors from expired domains mainly, and misspelled keywords from search engines, and contextual ads to deliver traffic for clients.

    These two adbright clauses I find rerevant to this

    Promotion of incentives for users or third-party beneficiaries for online activities, but not limited to, completing offers, performing searches, surfing websites, reading emails, completing surveys, clicking on ads, "or any activity that artificially enhances website/advertiser metrics."

    Incentivized programs such paid to click, paid to read, paid to search, paid to surf, autosurf, third party services, or click exchange.


    I think they are walking a fine line its definately not a longterm business model.

    These are just my views
     
  6. IMATA

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    Thanks for your post, Spider786


    Yep, that's pretty much my take on this particular case, even though I don't believe the 2 clauses you mentioned really apply, since this wouldn't really be incentivized traffic. I do still see it as pretty scammy and short sighted since conversions from this traffic are almost non existent. Besides, these sellers are not keeping those sites for themselves for a reason, particularly when traffic generation would be almost automatic. You can, however, buy more targeted traffic at higher rates and still make a profit while providing a legit service, I guess.

    In any case, my real question goes along these lines: Is there a way to pull out some kind of arbitrage by buying cheap traffic and selling it CPM -or even CPC- (through reputable providers on both ends) for high profits and without scamming anyone? (I mean, I know there must be; I just wanted to hear what your experiences were with this).
     
  7. Hunwarrior

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    It must be fake! all is website sold for 1 months revenue, only 1 bid for most (all i checked) and always bought.

    This is a scam. i am 100% positive
     
  8. IMATA

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    Once again, yes, I tend to agree there's sth fishy with this particular case.

    However, does anybody think this sort of arbitrage is possible with any combination of providers in the long run?
     
  9. Spider786

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    Yes it was a scam. They made 56k before they got caught!
    Premium Online Investments

    This account has been permanently banned

    Flippa users 423498
     
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    The above Flippa auction is a scam, but let me assure you that CPM Arbitrage is alive and well my friends.

    Typically it works by finding a REALLY great traffic source and then you can get your effective CPM to around $0.38 - while lower level companies such as AdBrite etc. pay out around $0.60 for the same traffic.

    With almost no work you can double your money on a daily basis and then the only thing you have to worry about is how to fund your account for the 75 days required (considering all CPM companies are NET45).
     
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  11. mikkosoporno

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    I've been playing with this one idea in my head for some hours and I want you to tell me why it wouldn't work. The plan is to put six different CPM advertiser's ads on six different pages, one ad per page. Then make one page where is iframe of each of these pages which has CPM ad. I would buy traffic and drive it to this page which has iframes on, and get paid by six different ad company per visitor. Does this make any sense?