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PA/DA vs PR vs Moz Rank

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by thisismymp3, May 18, 2015.

  1. thisismymp3

    thisismymp3 Power Member

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    Want some peoples opinions on this matter considering building a PBN, before i get the smart ass comments, ideally you want high pr and high pa/da but lets say you found domains that have pa/da 30-40-50 level good trust flow but pr0, i know pr has somewhat been faded out but being an old timer one can't help but wonder what's the PR, was wondering a ballpark figure on what the price ranges would / should be if buying links from them or buying the domain outright


    and on a side note, why do i see infractions 1/0 next to my info!
     
  2. SupremeBoner

    SupremeBoner Junior Member

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    PR is still a good metric, only idiots jump on the TF exclusive bandwagon.

    A DA40 site will naturally have PR even if it is deleted and the shown PR is gone -- the links should still have PR.

    What you don't want is a DA40 thats entirely shitty directories or obviously spam.
     
  3. thisismymp3

    thisismymp3 Power Member

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    thanks for that, love your name. I will always do my due diligence in researching backlinks of the domain.
     
  4. Zwielicht

    Zwielicht Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    They have different uses.

    PA & DA: I find both of these are great for estimating keyword competition in the SERPs.
    PR: Some people still estimate a site's current PR when they're buying domains.
    MozRank: I've never used MozRank, so I can't comment on it.
     
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  5. burnett4congress

    burnett4congress Regular Member

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    A PR0 DA50 (or high TF or whatever metric) site would be pretty suspect.

    The last PR update was December 2013, that's a year and a half ago. So if the site is older than that, it should have PR. If the site is newer than that and has been linked up to a DA of 50, you have to examine those links to see how much of it is real.

    All metrics can be gamed to look good without any real SEO benefit. So make sure you do your research.
     
  6. jo080711

    jo080711 Regular Member

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    Toolbar PR hasn't been updated in over a year and will likely never be updated again. I'm not sure how that makes it a "good metric".

    All that means it had PR in December 2013. They could have spammed the hell out of their domain since then...but we have no way of knowing because they don't share the number anymore.

    As Zwielicht said, you could try to make your own estimation if you want, but going by 1 1/2 year old numbers is not smart.

    Take all of these metrics with a grain of salt. I think TF is pretty good overall, but that can definitely be manipulated as well. (But at LEAST it was updated this year). PA DA can be inflated with pure spam links. You really need to check out the backlink profile as you mentioned. If they aren't spammy and the site looks good in Archive.org you likely found a good domain.
     
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  7. SupremeBoner

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    ^ was referring to incoming link PR