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Owning .com.au domains outside of Aus?

Discussion in 'Domain Names & Parking' started by meathead1234, Apr 13, 2011.

  1. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    Hey guys,

    I have read that if you're outside of Australia you can't register a .com.au domain unless you are Australian or have a business there.

    I was wondering if this also applies to transferring ownership of a .com.au domain?

    So if I'm buying a website with a .com.au domain and I'm in the UK, can I do this? I can obviously think of BH ways to do it, but it's for a client so I'd rather do it properly!

    Thanks!
     
  2. cornkernel

    cornkernel Regular Member

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    does the client have an australian business number??
     
  3. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    No. They would be US based. Setting something up wouldn't be a major issue, but I'm looking for the most cost effective way to do this "properly".
     
  4. lacy1978

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    Can you purchase hosting from an australian provider and then buy the domain name through them?
     
  5. cornkernel

    cornkernel Regular Member

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    these are some rules that i found, but you probably know this already:


    1. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Must be clearly derived from a registered Australian Business Name, or registered Australian Company. Include the correct Business details (including the BRN or ACN Number) with the application as we will submit these with th application. If you cannot find your BRN or ACN numer then we can easily track these for you.

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    2. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Example: If you wish to register watchstore.com.au, and your busines name is Sydney Prestige Watch Store, then this is correct. Alternatively if your company name is, say, Watch Store Pty Ltd, then this is also acceptable.

      However if your business name is Sydney Prestige Watches, then we cannot regsiter the domain as the complete domain name does not derive (No 'store' in the business name). The letters in the domain name must be derived in the same order as they appear in the business name. In this example the domain name watchstore.com.au could not be registered with a business name called 'Prestige Store of Watches'.

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    3. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Limit of one (1) only domain name per registered company name or business name.

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    4. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Generic words are not allowed in the com.au domain space. Genereic words are those that describe a product, service or industry. A good rule of thumb is if you find it as a category in the Yellow Pages then it may not be registered. That is why 'wedding.com.au' or 'gift.com.au' and others are still available.

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    5. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Australian localities are not allowed to be registered. If it has a postcode then it cannot be registered.

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    6. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Any reference to the Olympics may not be registered[/FONT]
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    so i'm not really sure. are you talking about buying a .com.au off of another person and using that? because i don't see why you couldn't, but then again, i don't know how they would do checks on these things. i've never registered a .com.au myself, but was looking at it a few days ago... but i don't have an ABN, so yeah.... and i don't want to apply for one until july, after tax time.

    do you know anyone with and ABN? because i suppose you could just get them to register one, but i don't know how they confirm these things when you register.

    sorry i'm not much help! but if you do find out, let me know! :)

    EDIT: it all sounds stupid to me, lol
     
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  6. cornkernel

    cornkernel Regular Member

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    the same rules apply as far as i know.
     
  7. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    Thanks... that's kinda where I got stuck. I'm aware that they wouldn't be able to register one, but I'm wondering if that would prevent ownership of a .com.au being transferred to them if it's already been registered? There's plenty of info on reg'ing on, just not "owning" one.

    I don't see why it would be a problem, but we're talking about quite a lot of money so don't want to be giving bad advice :)
     
  8. cornkernel

    cornkernel Regular Member

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    i agree with you. i don't even know who to ask either, hopefully someone on here would know. i know people that have business numbers but they don't know anything about the internet, so there's no point in me asking them....
     
  9. JimFit

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    I had registered an .au site and i am not living in australia :p
     
  10. cornkernel

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    yes, but there's .au and .com.au...................
     
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    simply buy com and set australia in google wm
     
  12. brent360

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    Any domain that you supposedly can't register unless you're within a given locality may be registered with the help of an intermediary. That intermediary can be any small business you have contacts with, or even a company like GoDaddy (which does offer that service at a premium). :)
     
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    you unable to do that. Even you transfer you do need a have a company there or do need Australia citizen. Why? it is because all the country domain name main suppliers is only one. It same with other country as well. They do have their term and condition with the country domain.
    Therefore if you would like to have a .au domain name, you may get a register company in au but do not have a real physical office. Then you will be able to purchase the .au domain.
     
  14. nicknick

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    Its bullshit, im from Australia and cant even buy a domain. You need to have an Australian Business Number (ABN) in order to 'own' a .com.au domain name.
     
  15. nicknick

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    And yes sorry i forgot to mention, it also applies if your gaining ownership by a transfer :(
     
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    "[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Limit of one (1) only domain name per registered company name or business name." <<<<< does this mean that you are only allowed to register only 1 .com.au once in your life time ...FKKKKK
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    Ok..I thought I would chime in here..since I have done a bit of work related to this. You can buy any number of .com.au domains if they are related to your business. I worked at a car yard once, and their finance division had all sorts of finance related domains names registered under them like boats, caravas, cars, equipment etc.

    But, you DO NEED an ABN number to be able to do this, with your registered business name being related to the type of domains you purchase. But, off late I have seen SEO companies here in Oz, buy all sorts of domain names just to be able to give links to their clients. One seo company bought car insurance related domains for giving links!

    But, you cannot have whois privacy because of AUDA policies. Also, if you were to transfer domains the other party needs to have a valid ABN number. As a domain transfer takes 5-7 days and its mostly admin stuff that they check. You even need to get the sign of the person who is receiving the domain..I had to do this when my work place purchased a domain and then the ownership was transferred.

    Also, if anything like this happens and you end up making decent $$ from it, I believe that you may have CGT (capital gains tax) applied to you. Though, I am not quite sure about it.

    This is from what I understand have seen happen.