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Own Joomlas* hosted as a tier 3

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by aidenhera, Apr 6, 2017.

  1. aidenhera

    aidenhera Elite Member

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    There was only one reason i didnt point gsa directly at my money site = because the joomlas(or whatever engine put here) are created as a page on already spammed domain.

    They are neither created as a page on high quality domain nor as a subdomain on high quality domain.

    It's nothing wrong with the platform, its just the domains that were scraped for last 10 years and spammed. one person could easily bring penalty to domains with joomla. and make it irrelevant.

    Even if they don't have a penalty, if you scan domains (with top platforms like wordpress.com) for "traffic" you will see they have way way more traffic than domains with platforms that are can be scraped from gsa.

    because:
    1. they are maintained. maybe wordpress.com (and other) even scan for duplicate content using copyscape or anything. maybe they scan for broken links. maybe they scan for links pointing to websites that are penalised. thats speculation but anyway they maintain it. put too many links on new blog and you are bye bye probably as well.
    2. since they dont allow bots like gsa to register millions of accounts = their natural accounts (subdomains in this case) is natural. Google wont see 3k pages one day and then 100k another, which could be one of the reasons why gsa spammed platforms are very very very far in google search (if not penalised)
    3. they use subdomains so they are relevant
    4.other reasons

    PS I realise wordpress.com and other TOP platforms use subdomains so your site will always be relevant as you own whole subdomain and if u post about one thing only then it will never break its revelancy.

    solution:
    - Joomlas* (or anything, just mere example) on own hosting.
    - single domain with hundreds of subdomains. one subdomains means one topic (example cars)

    Now we will have a link from subdomain about cars that links to other sites about cars (our tier 2!)

    But if you think of it, pages instead of own subdomains aren't that bad. That depends on domain.

    if you create a site about cars, you will want to have an link outgoing from each article to different site abour cars so our tier 2 suits fine. Articles are hosted on your domain like Joomla or wordpress engine or whatever does.

    We put some related articles, now we pump our domain with bigger quality links and a lot of social signals to make it index new things faster.

    so instead of gsa links like:

    Domain:
    spammedirrelevantdomain.com/
    your page:
    spammedirrelevantdomain.com/?option=com_k2&view=itemlist&task=user&id=169323654

    we will get:
    cars.problogs.com/best-cars-in-2017

    that will:
    - link to our tier 2
    - help tier 2 get indexed
    - pass relevancy and link juice to tier 2

    What you think?
    Note it probably absolutely doesnt matter we will have the same ip pointing to all of our tier 2 sites as long as we do some links diversity (just to avoid penalty)

    *instead of joomlas id use anything better interlinked with low weight so we can host a lot of them.

    tldr/summary:
    one relevant subdomain (well linked and with good social signals) posting big amounts of articles daily with links pointing to all our relevant tier 2 pages, avoiding penalties because of up to 1 OBL per article, relevancy and other measures.

    if tier 2 points to other sites as well and not only our money site then thats fine and no penalty
     
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  2. blogzandstuff

    blogzandstuff Elite Member

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    God, I lost the will to live, no idea as to what you are talking about. Got bored
     
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  3. aidenhera

    aidenhera Elite Member

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    its a sophisticated version of relevant linkwheel. in link wheel all your sites in tier 2 pointing to moneysite also point to others sites in their tier 2 which is footprint for Google..

    but if we point tier 3 from single IP at all tier 2 pages (could be one article away from article with link) then it wont get us a penalty yet it will provide a strong kick to all our tier 2 sites because all of them got a link from strong extremaly relevant subdomain that is already decently ranked in google.

    If all our tier 2 links acquired such strong tier 3 links (doesnt matter is one IP) instead of single Joomla article on spammedirrelevantdomain or instead of the original linkwheel which is a footprint itself and consists of before mentioned joomla articles (and other shitty stuff made in shitty way) which dont provide any kick nor relevancy at all.

    its like having a managed tier 1 instead of trashy tier 3 sites on place of tier 3. Since its all from single IP we will do much less work but we wont get a ban because we have link diversity on all sites.
     
  4. MikeyMikey13

    MikeyMikey13 Senior Member

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    Yeah, and do you not think this was thought of 5 years ago? Joomla K2 is cancer, end of.

    Say goodbye to your moneysites.
     
  5. aidenhera

    aidenhera Elite Member

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    but joomla is example. you could host wordpress instead of. the idea was an automated high quality site that will link only to relevant sites. for example sites in our tier 2.
     
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    Yeah but think about this in terms of ROI, do you think that will be the best way to spend your money? I doubt it.

    What about the time it would take to set this up? Could you spend that time better?
     
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    I meant single domain with single wordpress installation then that pinned in GSA for automation. no time nor money spent.
     
  8. MikeyMikey13

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    So you will effectively just spam your own domain? Just like people do with GSA?

    Just the only difference is all your links will come from one site...
     
  9. aidenhera

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    people with gsa spam irrelevant domains with big OBL. they both have bad backlinks and have OBL pointing to bad, irrelevant sites.

    in my case my obl is very low, relevant, and pointing to high quality sites. apart from that our wordpress would also have high quality relevant backlinks along with social signals
     
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    How does an article posted on a GSA site have big obl? Most just have internal links, apart from the ones you add.

    and on your last point, why not just build a pbn? Save yourself all this hassle of building links/social signals to the site?

    I don't think anything I say will change your mind, it seems pretty set on doing this. All I can advise is don't go crazy investing in this before you've tested it working.
     
  11. KHer0

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    Your post is hard to read but I think u want to create blog network of subdomains.

    Wordpress subdomains is good because one thing which is its authority.

    I never use spamming softwarw cuz I never needed to, however, I have always used web 2.0 blog networks.
     
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    article posted by gsa doesnt have big obl. but it posts on domains with big obl. tf-idf in mean of content relevancy is ruined. but its also ruined for obl. and they all are directed to trashy sites. so maybe your article is clean but that site was spammed by other guys already with spammy articles and obl pointing to bad sites. its not single article that matters. whole domain matters. relevancy, obl amount and their quality, relevancy of obl. relevancy of backlinks poinitng to that domain, and their quality.

    sure pbn is cool im just trying to do things my way and hopefully make it work


    @KHer0 well one subdomain per niche is enough. depends how many niches u do.
    but yeah you are right thats a blog network but more open one. people usually forget to maintain their blog networks and even if they do manitain it, they only link to their moneysite and wikipedia/other authority maybe cause they dont own more sites.

    if we do this from perspective of tier 3 we will have alot of relevant sites to post to (tier 2) without additional work.

    and yeah sites that link only to moneysite are bad. so this approach might work very well
     
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  13. 710fla

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    To be fair many platforms that GSA can post to have already been spammed, not just K2.

    And if it was that easy to get penalized for using K2 then everyone would have already pointed massive amounts of them to their competitors site.