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oweing money to adwords for a month

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by SeanL9941, Jan 22, 2012.

  1. SeanL9941

    SeanL9941 Newbie

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    Maybe i need to read up more on this, i thought i was doing it right.. guess not

    here is the run down,
    current account has been on youtube since 06,
    posted a video in 09, currently has 17 likes 5 dislikes
    has 27,489 Real views
    this account has 45 subs
    and a total of 470k views,
    sure i broke the rules once or twice so my account is not in
    'good standing'

    i have never done ad's or 'click here to win' offers or anything like it,
    it was more i was the first person to post content and i got caught(example snl sketch) .. no biggy i was doing it just to do it.. didnt have any intent in making money at all

    My question is, on this video that i have, that i shot on my own camera
    I spent $20 to promote it,
    thinking Spend $20 get views, viewers will click on ads i will get paid..
    the stats on the video were

    28k imp 387 clicks and 1.37%CTR cost was $13.93

    thats where my thinking is off i guess, at no point did i get paid,
    now all i got out of it were views.. and im out $20

    what did i miss? so i am not a partner? but i can post ads and pay for said ads and not get paid when they click on said ads? its a promoting tool, if i were promoting my product and they went to buy said product then it might of been worth it, instead i just paid for views, which get me nowhere?


    sorry if this is alot to take in, just a noob at this i guess,


    but either way, i thought that even with the clicks that i did get i'd see some kind of positive cash?
    just looking for some advice please,

    been coming to this forum for a long time, scared to ask questions, cause i see how the noobs get treated some times... but im really getting into learning now and very interested in seeing what i can do
     
  2. Skinny3600

    Skinny3600 Newbie

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    What you are not seeing is that when people "Advertise" their videos, the very adverts which are making you money on your videos are the same.

    They are to bring attention to a company or product with the intent to sell, not to generate more monetisation through their videos.

    You have to take into account that what your adverts may pay after the bidding (Advertisers bid on what price to go up to) your adverts may end up paying a higher price due to there possibley being more competition. so you may pay say 5cents per click, whereas you are only making maybe 3p per average view or maybe even less!
     
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  3. padlock

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    Hey, Sean....congrats on your first post! And don't be worried about posting. Most of the newbs that get flamed around here are asking questions that = just being too lazy to use the search function.

    Having said that...I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. :D

    It seems like an interesting question, though, so let's try to clear things up a bit...

    I get that you're saying that you spent money on promoting your video but that you didn't see return on your investment. How did you promote the video? Did you spend $20 on advertising via YouTube (i.e. did you pay to make your video a "Featured Video"?) If not, where did you buy the ads?

    Also, from what I can gather, you actually spent $13 and some change...not $20?

    Personally, I've never spent money to promote any of my videos (short of buying views back when that worked)...but the money I've made through AdSense has been organic for the most part - actual viewers, actually clicking on the links; no devious strategies.

    Anyway, if you can clear some of that up, I'd be happy to help out.

    (and, don't worry...I'm not implying that this was a dumb post...I just sincerely am not getting what you're asking)


     
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    Also, no disrespect intended to Skinny but I have no idea what he's talking about either.

    Did I drop acid before I logged in to BHW today? :eek:

    To quote another member here: "Is this a joke thread?"

    LOL. Seriously, though....let's clear this up and we'll help.

     
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  5. SeanL9941

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    sorry i knew my post would wind up being a convoluted mess that i thought would only make sence to me, having read it again, it kind of makes sence, but i appreciate your wanting to help

    i'll clear up the $20 thing first,
    Yes. my bad it was $13, but i had another(useless) promotion going and that was $4, so i spent $17-$18, which by my brokemath is approx $20

    anyway, that was easy..

    so what happend was, i saw that my non marketing non money making non viral, just your average video of a guy on the street doing something he shouldn't of been doing was gaining views, and i thought i could 'make money by getting views' type of thing,

    so i clicked on the 'promote' button,created the 'ad' to get featured gave it a budget of $0.60/day Thinking/knowing that I would have to pay $0.60/day but maybe i would in return make $0.90/day or $5.00/day or whatever, im a noob, what do i know, i Did not do a ton of research,

    so i thought i was paying for ads to pop up on my video that i would get paid when people clicked, or viewed ppc/ppv ( i get the terms just have not done anything with it)
    that probably makes no sense since thats not the way it is ;)
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    so in the long run unless I learn some html/css..etc.. blogging skills or create a website and get some seo..etc etc.. i wont be making any money on the internet ;{ oh well, it was a thought ps, yea i could get aff marketing link and link to teeth whiting stuff but for this video thats just spam, and i could have shared a pirated mp3 album on sh-cash but thats just spam..etc.. i thought 'get paid per ad views' was a better option at the time


    padlock / skinny thanks for your comments,

    padlock if you can help me out in whatever way possible that'd be great , as you can see im just a geek on the net trying to get some of that youtube money, maybe its not for me
    or i just dont get it i guess
    padlock - i know im 'computer smart' im 'street smart' im just not college educated degree smart.. (not that you have to be to be successful in IM) I have never been good at teaching my self a skill and being able to master it,

    thanks/sorry bout all the edits and cuts and shitty grammar , forum said i was posting links/images..etc.. so i had to post 1 paragraph at a time to figure out what words i cant use,
    sean
     
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    :hmmm: I'm still not getting it? Never mind...
     
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    I think the overall jist is he had a video which was getting views, and he believed that by increasing views would provide more conversions, and he hoped to make a bigger return on the conversions than the cost of running adwords.

    All in all, he is out of pocket (cost of adwords is more than earnings made).

    Sean, if you are looking for a way to monetise your video, or websites/promote affiliate offers, there are some really good threads here that will help. Your best bet is to search the 'Make Money' section, or use the search feature for threads related to youtube.

    Also, if you are looking to get started with a website, consider a free hosted blog to start with whilst you build some income to re-invest (something like wordpress.com or blogspot.com will do, but there are lots of others you could use).

    The most important lesson you can take away from your experience is research. Online marketing is all about testing and experience, but that being said, doing sufficient research in the beginning and making sure figures add up for everything first is one way of minimising risks. Good luck.
     
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  8. padlock

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    DN100 is 100% correct. Listen to this man.

    On the subject of paying to have your video featured on YT, I've never really had any luck with that on a video that I'm trying to monetize. It is useful if you're promoting an artist or product and are just trying to get viewers to visit your website. But, if you're using it to try to increase your Adsense dollars, you're probably better off just growing views naturally.

    In your case, what you're describing is an entertaining video and you'd probably be better served to find similar videos with high view counts and list your video as a "response" to those videos. Also, non-spammy comment posting might benefit you as well. Just post comments on high view count videos with various YT accounts saying something like: "OMG, that was hilarious. Reminded me of this (your video link here)." If you don't have several YT accounts to spin for this, check the BuySellTrade section of BHW and you can either buy some PVAs that you can use with proxies. Or, if you don't know how to do that/just would rather farm it out, you can pay for someone to post these comments for you.

    To me, the above would be money better spent than buying "featured" status. It will probably not cost you much more than what you just paid.

    The bottom line, though, is don't get discouraged. You just learned something, after all - and that's what's important. Other members here only "know more than you" because we've already made these same mistakes. And, at that, it's only because we've been doing it longer. A year or two from now, you'll (hopefully) be making posts on BHW helping newbs based on your experience as well.

    If I had all of the money I wasted during my "early years" on things like this and much, much worse ideas...shit...I look back on some of the crap I spent money on and cringe, knowing what I know now. BUT, I wouldn't have learned that those concepts didn't work if I hadn't experienced it myself. So, you didn't waste money - you just paid for a lesson in IM. All good.
     
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  9. SeanL9941

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    Dn100
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    very helpful , thank you I totally get what you guys are saying, and i would never consider anything like this a waste, its a learning experience,

    Your right,
    Research Research Research for sure,

    Thanks for all the encouragement it means alot, right now on a tethered android connection (3g) its slightly awful, if i want to do some youtube downloading/editing/uploading w/ aff links i'll have to work on my connection first, but this is a new month, last month i wasnt even thinking about bhw, this was merly a website i visited (believe it or not) in 06 when i created my current and at one point my secondary youtube account

    The whole upload a song w/ a slideshow or single picture of todays 'HOTHOTHOT rapper" type video linking to a site to download it so i get paid seems so spammy and of all the illeagal type stuff i do, i feel like that would be to spammy even for me..

    anyway, less posting and rambling more reading and researching..

    sean