Outreach Links - The truth

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I just got my email flooded with more than 20 people who told their pricing for contributing text on their blog, without me asking for. Idk how the got my email on the first hand.

I checked like a couple of sites and they were all pbn sites, turned into sites for guest posting purposes.

So guys, please be careful when you decide to purchase "outreach links". Always make sure to check their history on archive, and see if there's activity on that website.
 
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70% of BHW sellers who are providing outreach links are selling PBN links. And they even look the same. Few PBN sellers have even better sites than those outreach sites.

In marketplace, there are ~3 sellers who are providing REAL outreach links, so just to sink in.
 
tehnikumapuika said:
70% of BHW sellers who are providing outreach links are selling PBN links. And they even look the same. Few PBN sellers have even better sites than those outreach sites.

In marketplace, there are ~3 sellers who are providing REAL outreach links, so just to sink in.
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They got smarter. They quoted me for 120 pounds for a link, while if they were selling pbn lins, they would have to sell 120$ for 40 posts.
 
i agreed, nowadays, outreach is almost like PBN if it's <500$.
Outreach = influenceur = expensive nowadays.
 
same happen to me, i outreach to one guy and the next couple of days i was flooded with the similar offer most of the sites used same themes.
 
If you want a job doing properly, do it yourself. I wouldn't pay for a link on a site with under 10 traffic. And certainly wouldn't pay for a link on some spammy piece of shite where every post is a backlink to some shite blog. I'd stay well away from most of the "guest post" services on here. They are borderline scammers.
 
mickyfu said:
If you want a job doing properly, do it yourself. I wouldn't pay for a link on a site with under 10 traffic. And certainly wouldn't pay for a link on some spammy piece of shite where every post is a backlink to some shite blog. I'd stay well away from most of the "guest post" services on here. They are borderline scammers.
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I do exactly the same, but it's crazy seeing how easily people are scammed with these guest posts.

I always try to get guest posts on sites that at least have more than 2 comments on their blog posts and some traffic.
 
I had an assistant do some manual outreach to a good number of the blogs from the first rendition of @back2form 's list. You'd be surprised how many of them either:
  1. Were PBNs in a past life,
  2. Have had manual penalties recently,
  3. Had a massive boost of spammy links pushed to their site to artificially increase metrics,
  4. Have increased their prices drastically since @back2form reached out, or
  5. Don't do guest posts any more/never responded
 
Sherb said:
I had an assistant do some manual outreach to a good number of the blogs from the first rendition of @back2form 's list. You'd be surprised how many of them either:
  1. Were PBNs in a past life,
  2. Have had manual penalties recently,
  3. Had a massive boost of spammy links pushed to their site to artificially increase metrics,
  4. Have increased their prices drastically since @back2form reached out, or
  5. Don't do guest posts any more/never responded
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Can you give more information about how you check if the site was a PBN? And how you judge if a site is good for a guest post?

Thanks :)
 
yesofcourse said:
Can you give more information about how you check if the site was a PBN? And how you judge if a site is good for a guest post?

Thanks :)
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The site gets checked through archive.org. If it looks like shit, it was probably a PBN. @Nargil and @Leith have some awesome things floating around for checking on this kind of stuff.

Judging the site for quality for a guest post for my specific purposes is coming down to three factors:
  1. Checking the metrics (I like to use Ahrefs for this)
  2. Reading through some of the site's content to ensure they aren't accepting links from anyone on any topic
  3. If they let me write the post and put in links/images/multimedia
 
I have an article in the works which goes over exactly what to look for when ordering outreach links.

Heck, it might cause a lot of frustration for existing outreach service sellers but hey, at least it educates others :)

One common problem I've noticed is some sellers genuinely don't know if the outreach post they've obtained for a client is real or not. I spoke to a few vendors last week and did a few test orders only to realise the posts were actually very high quality PBN's / controlled properties for selling links.

A real outreach service should provide links on quality, genuine blogs/sites where the sole focus of the site isn't to sell links for $.
 
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When you look outreach few metrics matters.
PBN is way to diff from Outreach Guest Blog Post.
PBN just have metrics and thats all.
Guest blog posts have metrics,keywords and traffic.
This is easy to establish which is good and which is "bad".
Although i must mention that sometimes even PBN with very high quality "in sense of content" can bring more value to your website than Guest Blog Posts.
 
Sherb said:
I had an assistant do some manual outreach to a good number of the blogs from the first rendition of @back2form 's list. You'd be surprised how many of them either:
  1. Were PBNs in a past life,
  2. Have had manual penalties recently,
  3. Had a massive boost of spammy links pushed to their site to artificially increase metrics,
  4. Have increased their prices drastically since @back2form reached out, or
  5. Don't do guest posts any more/never responded
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I outreached to back2form's list too. Actually the list is pretty good considering was free. It had the price they charge, and email list.

On the list, actually, there weren't many PBN sites, except one person if I don't forget Dr Prem who owned around 5 sites in health niche only for the solely purpose of selling links.

One thing, that I actually hate even more than PBNs selling guest posts, are sites that were good and had audience, who turned into sites generating income only from guest posts.

2. I never thought to check for penalties. How do you check them? I saw some people do that by traffic drop, right?

4. Actually a lot of the sites that I reached out to increased the pricing, probably after they saw many people reaching out to them.
 
So far, the easiest way to see if the stuff is real, is to check Semrush and see whether or not the website has a traffic. If it doesn't, it's shit. If it does, then you still do the same due diligence as you would with an expired domain. Archive, domaintools, hosting history, backlink profile, anchors, etc.
 
Nowadays, Most of the sellers are giving PBN's as outreach links. Be aware of that.
 
My big tip is to find people who quite clearly don't really know what Outreach / Guest Posts, even means. This obviously includes PBN links.

When I outreach, I find people who simply have a related website which is isn't spammed with incoming links, have decent referring domains etc and - are more than happy to link back because they're getting a well written article and they're linking to an informative, related post of mine.

All I know is since starting this in March, my rankings have definitely improved - currently 36 of my pages have moved into the top 10, with over 90 now into the top 100, which weren't in beforehand. The only fee I pay is for the article which I outsource (for under £5). Under £5 for a decent link.

I don't pay for any links. You don't have to if you think outside the box.
 
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