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Outranked by Weak Site?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SYCRO, Oct 17, 2010.

  1. SYCRO

    SYCRO Junior Member

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    Hey,

    I've been doing SEO for a website in a competitive niche for roughly a year now and i'm currently sitting at position #50 in Google. I have a decent SEO profile, PR1, lots of backlinks, all onsite SEO is done.

    However, when i look at the competition on page 1, there is a site at position #8 that has been there a few months, with no PR, low backlinks, most of which are from profile links from a XRumer blast.

    The only thing i can think of is he is a .org domain, where as i am .info

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. Ed4252

    Ed4252 Power Member

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    yeah it's the domain. .org/.com/net's are good for SEO. you're just going to have to keep on building backlinks because it's a .info
     
  3. patmiller27

    patmiller27 BANNED BANNED

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    .info is definitely not a good idea from an seo's perspective...
     
  4. dunk15us

    dunk15us Regular Member

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    I was under the impression that good treats all extensions with the same weight, I mean look photoshoptutorials.ws ranks #1 for a very competitive and lucrative keyword. I've seen Matt Cutt's assert that they are all treated with the same weight?????
     
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    half of what Matt Cutt told is lies ...
     
  6. aldragon

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    Just an update on domain extensions: in the latest g00gle seo guide it clearly appears that only .com and .org have priority now not .net anymore. Not sure why but it looks like its that way from now on.
     
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    Matt Cutts is a misinformation agent of Google
     
  8. SYCRO

    SYCRO Junior Member

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    So .info and .net are hopeless?
     
  9. Mage

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    I use a lot of infos and once I could get good positions but not anymore.

    Yesterday I checked a keyword I'm trying to rank. My net without a site is no:6 whereas the info with a full site (with seo) is no.30.
     
  10. polocolto

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    link to Source, please.
     
  11. konst666

    konst666 Registered Member

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    I have info site that rank good enough. And I have some org sites that not rank good. I think that domain age is very important for seo.
     
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    Where did you see this? I have quite a few .net domains with first page and #1 rankings so I really doubt this is the case. I have not noticed any difference between .net, .org, and .com's as far as any of them being easier or harder to rank.

    The only ones that I have any problems rankings are the .info domains. I believe the reason for this is that they were being sold for .99 for so long that so many of them were spammed to death that they are now harder to rank.
     
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  13. zoux

    zoux Registered Member

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    what are the ages of your domain and their??
     
  14. gerryboy101

    gerryboy101 Newbie

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    .info is a top level domain and has nothing to do with it. site age is a huge factor
     
  15. SYCRO

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    His site is 8 months old. Mine is just coming up to 12 months.
     
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    I've worked with a lot of very gifted and effective SEO professionals. Nearly all of them still had a few hundred things they could do to "finish" optimizing their content properly.

    #50 suggests to me that you still have more work to do there. At PR1 you have more link building to do to. I recommend link building to at least PR3. By my estimations, PR3 is the first tier to have statistical advantage in the SERPs. The next tier is PR7.
     
  18. SYCRO

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    I've done all the major onsite SEO, keyword in title, url, desc, header, good keyword density, 10 pages indexed with 100% unique content.

    I understand about building more links, but if this guy is on page 1 with less than half the backlinks i have now, how many would it take?

     
  19. ipopbb

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    I hear ya. Just mentioning for the folks who are still learning that there is a lot more to it than that and even something as simple sounding as "keyword in title" is easy to do in a sub-optimal way. If you were on page 2 instead of page 5 I'd think you'd have less on page to do, but truthfully I can't possible know with out knowing the niche and seeing the source, so it is all hypothetical and so I am giving my hypothetical best advice. With what we know I'd bet the problem is in the fundamentals. Thats is where most of my mistakes happen for the simple reason that is where there is the most opportunity to make mistakes.

    I openly admit I know nothing about you, your website, or your niche.