Other types of links for 2k site PBN.

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After contemplating selling our network and failing due to a time waster on here, you know who you are, we decided to carry on.

We have done a JV with a guy who has a similar size PBN network as myself. Together we have 2k domains and work in a VERY competitive sector. Basically we have done multiple sites split up into groups of 100 + domains per money site. We do one link per blog, maximum 2 links per pumper on some to avoid footprints.

We can get sites to page 2 for the main KW but are having issues getting to page 1.

As we are only PBN, no other link types I am thinking of adding types or backing up existing links with another tier. Any advice from people who mix PBN with other links most welcome.
 
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web 2.0's , social signals, some .edu and .gov links, niche related guest post and offcourse add some old school directory, social bookmarks, some pliggs, some do follow blog comments, some wiki's, press release sites, doc sharing, video submission, audio submissions, image sharing sites, infographics, . These links will diversify your link profile
 
I have similar issue ! I have 78 PBN websites pointing to money site, and ranking on page 2-3 ! How many backlinks pointing to PBN blog ?
 
yeah seems google worked it out, we definitely need some more signals. I expect in a non competitive niche PBN is enough. Pure PBN not giving off enough trust for page one.
 
I started build more links to PBN, more spammy like everyone else on internet :) mailingmax did you get penalized in penguin 3.0 for PBN ?
 
I have similar issue ! I have 78 PBN websites pointing to money site, and ranking on page 2-3 ! How many backlinks pointing to PBN blog ?

78 domains pointing to money site and still not numer 1?
must be a very competitive keyword
how are you handling the hosting for your PBN btw?

Greetings
 
78 domains pointing to money site and still not numer 1?
must be a very competitive keyword
how are you handling the hosting for your PBN btw?

Greetings

You don't have to target a 'very competitive' keyword to experience the same thing. All new sites' ranking ability are constrained until they are old enough to rank in prime spots in the SERPs.
 
I'm having similar issues here, though less competitive niches with 50 domains per money site. First thing I tried was a couple of Fiverr gigs, but that was more to dillute some pathetic neg SEO attack where they pumped the same money keyword over and over (not extreme, just links from 40-50 domains are something) but enough to kind of freeze my rankings and bring me back to bottom page one instead of top 3.

As the poster above says, probably best to add some spam, with the strong links from the network that shouldn't raise any flags I think. Be careful with backing up existing links, you don't want to ruin your domains.

One other thing I've been thinking about is boosting the domains with more PBN links, who knows that helps.

Worst advice ever, fiverr gigs, spam? Good luck with that. Plus the poster above you never said anything about spam.
 
I am reluctant to do anything too heavy, can you imagine months of placing PBN links at a steady pace of velocity only to mess it all up with some automated crap.

IMO it needs something more genuine and trusted rather than some low quality crap.
 
Completely agree that would be a much better solution.

However there are people that get away with 100's of PBN links in combination with 1000's if not 10.000's of pure spam links, however I suspect that turns it more into some churn & burn method than a way to rank well.

Problem we all face is where to find something more genuine / trusted, it's impossible to grab by desire, only possible through link outreach and such and we all hate that (well at least me and about every one I know hates it).

In the months that you spend building your site just create parallel 2.0's and add content untill they become mini authority sites.. then you can get contextual backlinks from them that won't suck as much.
 
@wedreamso
I never said blast you website with 1000's of wiki links or blog comments i guess you forgot to put your reading glasses on and as far as my signature is concerned you got that wrong aswell i am not selling links i am just promoting a service that sells proxies which can be used with these bots.
 
i would try:
pr service(you can get for ~50$ here on bhw)
a diversity pack (you can try beanstalk seo)
and link essence (i recommend you to hit all your website pages with this service)
 
Only using PBN links isn't the best approach for expanding your link profile and making
it look naturally to Google.

You have to first think about how a site would naturally rank through popularity and mimic
that process. Lilmasta pointed out some great link types to you. :)
 
I always wondered how you guys handled the costs of running huge PBNs (50+ domains) versus the income of your money site.
How much does it really cost on a monthly basis to run a PBN of 50 sites?
 
Personally I calculate it like this:

- Average domain purchase price $100,- * 50 domains =$5000,-
-50 shared hosting plans * $70 (average) = $3500,-

I assume a domain lasts two years (domains can get deindexed, loose links and thus need to be replaced at some point) so with that in mind I say the costs of domains is $5000/2 = $2500/year + $3500/hosting = $6000/year or $500/month costs. For that you have a pretty solid network.

Personally I only use unlimited hosts (eg no limit on addons or mysql databases) and I host about 10 sites per IP (network 500 sites large), when you have only 50 sites you can do with cheaper hosts of course so personally I pay:

$3500 hosting a year / 10 sets = $350/year
$2500/year for domains

Total: $2850/year or about $250/month to keep it going.

Price obvious heavily fluctuates based on price of hosting and what you spend on your domains.

Cheapest way would be:

- 50 deleted domains * $10 = $500/2 years = $250/year
- 50 reseller / $1 hosts * $20/year = $1000/year.

So than you're done for about $100/month all together but for that you have a pretty weak network on somewhat risky hosting.

Summarized: In most cases between $100/mo and $500/mo to run a 50 site network. (costs of content and time to set it up not included).

Great way to explain.
Wouldn't it be better to have 1 IP per site? (50 sites = 50 IPs)
 
My network is worth about $35-40k all together, about 500 sites, and I make $10k/month profit from it, 80% of that is client fees for my SEO service. In turn my clients make a lot more than that combined. If I used the network only for myself I think I could make at least $20k/month profit from it so the ROI is pretty good.

What a newbie bait nonsense. Do you even know what you're talking about?
 
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