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organic rank #1?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by dramtulla, Dec 11, 2008.

  1. dramtulla

    dramtulla Junior Member

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    what would be the fastest way to organic rank #1 above these 3 sites:

    #1 3,581 backlinks PR5
    #2 96 backlinks PR1
    #3 5,104 backlinks PR5

    also im at a loss to why #2 on the organic list is higher that #3?

    any help is much appreciated

    thanks
     
  2. pac1984

    pac1984 Registered Member

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    #2 may have 96 related links as #3 may have a load of unrelated links

    #2 may have 96 links all using that particular keyword #3 may have only 5 links using that keyword but lots for other keywords

    Short answer is it wont be fast or easy to take down a PR 5 site from the top especially if its a very old site.
     
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  3. dramtulla

    dramtulla Junior Member

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    just what i needed to hear thx
     
  4. FleshJoe

    FleshJoe Power Member

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    The most important factor is relevance of the links for the keyword you're trying to rank for. Examples:

    All backlinks have 'golf swing' in the anchor text , and the keyword you're trying to rank for is 'dog food'. In this case, even if you do on-page SEO for 'dog food', it won't help, you'll still rank low for 'dog food'.

    On the other hand, if all backlinks have 'dog food' in the anchor text, you'll rank higher based on the authority of the source of these links, i.e. what pages they appear on.

    So, in summary: (a) get your anchor text right and of course your URL also, and (b) get a back link from a page that already has high authority for the keyword you're trying to rank for.
     
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  5. dramtulla

    dramtulla Junior Member

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    Muchas gracias Joe a nice condensed summary of what ive been reading.
    appreciated.
     
  6. dramtulla

    dramtulla Junior Member

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    now say i am doing some seo for a business partner who does all types of building + maintenance trades:
    painting
    tiling
    cleaning
    plumbing
    flooring etc
    and the company is called "complete maintenance solutions"
    To rank high for all trades for example "local plumber" "local cleaner" etc..
    as well as the above mentioned do you think creating subdomains for each trade would be the best way to go?
    for example for my key word "local plumber" id create "complete plumbing solutions" and assign it to a subdomain "localplumber.completem.......co.uk"
     
  7. pm_money

    pm_money Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    If you're doing SEO for an Offline Business, then I would hit up
    Code:
    http://tnx.net
    and drop about $50 on l i n k s. You'll get about 10,000 links to the site, and you can pick which website categories, regions, etc.

    It works good but takes a couple days for l i n k s to become live.

    Good luck man
     
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  8. Sweetfunny

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    I recommend don't go "too" overboard with the subs on a WH small business, brainstorm and come up with your several most important keywords and use them. Then for your secondry keywords run them as pages on the subs. For example:

    tiling.domain.com <- assuming tiling is a top keyword, then..

    tiling.domain.com/kitchen
    tiling.domain.com/bathroom

    And so on like that, running every keyword on a sub starts to look a bit spammy but if you segment it logicially like i mentioned it's far more likely to pass a sniff test should Cutts n Co see it.
     
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  9. dramtulla

    dramtulla Junior Member

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    Sweetfunny thank you mate i see the sence in that