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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by darrensss, Dec 2, 2010.

  1. darrensss

    darrensss Power Member

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    I'm thinking about buying one of the following ...

    Xrumer (forum profiles and threads)
    ScrapeBox (blog comments)
    SE Nuke (web 2.0 pages + bookmarking)

    I know they all do different things but before i make my mind up can you give me your expert opinions on what would be best ...

    1) which one is best to help improve serp's?
    2) which one is best value for money?
    3) and based on question 1, how easy is it to learn?
    4) is there any other BH software i should be thinking about?

    The main reason im asking is because i like the look of se nuke however i dont see many threads in BHW now about it? does this mean the techniques it uses are now being ignored by search engines? or is it just a case that xrumer and scrapebox are now much more popular? and how long will it be before 'forum backlinks' created by the likes of xrumer (and the same for blog comments with SB) will be ignored? if they ever do?

    Thanks inadvance ...

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  2. mudbutt

    mudbutt Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    dont buy them unless you need them. buying something just for fucks sake doesnt make any business sense. a common misconception among newew IMers is that they feel entitled to be making money if they own software. Software is a tool, combine it with knowledge and youll make money. Buy software without a solid knowledge foundation will lead to no money, plenty of headaches, and an unnecessary business expense. if i were you, go with scrapebox first. Its the most userfriendly one out of your list. I dont think youre ready for senuke and definitely not xrumer. just my opinion.
     
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  3. JesusBack

    JesusBack Executive VIP Premium Member

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    The one most overpriced would be SeNuke. Xrumer is fairly priced. SB is underpriced.
     
  4. darrensss

    darrensss Power Member

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    I need a little help now ... not a expert but pretty good with white hat seo and have done it for years. My industry has just got web savvy with big budgets so i need to get the upper hand - thats why im looking at these tools.
     
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    For the money SB is one of the greatest pieces of software ever written for seo.

    Spend time finding little nuggets of wisdom in this forum for alternate ideas of use for SB. If you maximize your understanding of the power of the software it will be all you ever need.

    You can buy auto approve lists here and save a lot of time if you have the money to buy them.

    ...just my .02
     
  6. darrensss

    darrensss Power Member

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    SE Nuke? really Dazzler .... little gutted as this was my route i was going down.
    I guess its coming down to xrumer and SB now ...
     
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    Each has things you need so I would buy SB and xrummer so I could cover everything.Just my opinion.
     
  8. darrensss

    darrensss Power Member

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    thanks for the tips ... anyone else want to join in?
     
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    this is probably the most knowledgeable post i read all day
     
  10. mudbutt

    mudbutt Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Sorry, but judging by your advice given I would classify you in the same class as the OP (which is to say you arent qualified to give him any). . For one thing, senuke is 127/monthly which is pretty pricey compared to xrumers 570 one time fee + 10 monthly. What you (and probably others who dont know about these tools) dont really realize is to run xrumer efficiently and safely you will need offshore bulletproof dedicated hosting. Have you seen those prices lately? Any decent rig will far exceed senukes monthly cost. Goodluck trying to operate xrumer on a whitehat onshore host who will shut you down at spam complaints. Whats that? You say you will run it on your own PC at home with proxies? Well lets say you pay a shitload for proxies and decide to blast with your home connection, you wont last long when your ISP notices you eating up bandwidth like a rabid dog.

    Senuke is not obsolete, nor is it the holy grail of SEO tools. When used properly it is more than just a "nifty" little tool, it can shave hours off daily activities, and as we all know Time=Money. Senuke + xrumer blasts (can be found in this forum) + scrapebox blasts = money. You just need to know how to use them. If you know you dont have the time, consider outsourcing. Plenty of good linkbuilding providers on these boards.

    Regarding Scrapebox, just get it. Its a measly 57$, and worth wayyyyy more.
     
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    djfobbz Newbie

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    ScrapeBox is the best in my opinion. Easy user interface and delivers results!
     
  12. darrensss

    darrensss Power Member

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    Excellent MudButt .... thats what i have been after, real opinion! cheers buddy
     
  13. mudbutt

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    This post is about picking one tool, but I am telling him that using all the tools combined will be the best option. You clearly said senuke falls way below xrumer as per quoted above. You implied that the 127/monthly fee was high compared to one time costs of xrumer. So I just informed him on the real costs of owning xrumer. Go ahead, find 5 other software that can do the same thing as senuke, like I said senuke is not the holy grail, nor is it a has-been in SEO. With senuke x officially in beta testing, it shouldnt be long til its realeased and it will change the seo landscape once more.

    Yes I say you're not qualified to give your advice if you have no real experience with those tools besides scrapebox. Thats like me taking a ferrari on a test run around the block then trying to give everyone advice about why its not worth it cus there are cheaper options available.
     
  14. mudbutt

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    You admitted to trying out senuke. Trying out the 7 day offer is not the same as going through the learning curve and really using it. Hence the car analogy earlier. Hes asking for advice, and getting advice from someone who doesnt know what hes talking about is probably worse then getting no advice at all. It creates misconceptions about programs and tools. If you have no experience with xrumer why would you rate it above senuke then? What senuke so bad that a tool you have no experience and costs twice as much to own automatically better? I cant say I follow your logic. Btw, youre entitled to your opinion, just like how many people will argue that senuke is crap now. If you'll notice though, its usually the people that have no real experience past the first 2 months of senuke that are the ones that announce its a dead product. Go ahead, giving your uneducated opinion about tools you dont really use, its your right.
     
  15. mudbutt

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    :rolleyes: Im done with this pointless debate here.

    @OP : keep in mind while doing your research regarding these tools that there are alot of people who have no experience in these tools but love to give their misinformed opinion about them.
     
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  16. ska8r411

    ska8r411 Registered Member

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    Dang dude thanks for this thread. Some of my questions were also answered.