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[OPINION] Own 24/7 GSA list scraper, or just buy lists?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by nycdude, Aug 25, 2016.

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  1. nycdude

    nycdude Regular Member

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    Hello guys,

    I wanted to get an opinion from other GSA SER owners about how you get your target ULS to post to. Do you think buying lists is the way to go, or is setting up ones own way (using Scrapebox for example) better?

    I'm wondering about costs, time, quality etc.

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. loopline

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    I can't really give you an opinion about whether you should do it your self or buy, as I sell lists and it would come off as bias.

    But what I can tell you is that its a lot of churning.

    I have a live sync service that churns out 300K-500K+ targets per month, removes dead targets daily and I dump the whole database and rebuild it all every month.

    I have 12 servers running. I have Scrapebox running in different methods as well as GSA SER running Scraping and then I have GSA SER running posting and verifying. I have 430 paid proxies and a couple of copies of captcha breaker running as servers as well as 12 or so copies of both GSA SER and Scrapebox.

    Plus I have a lot of custom code/scripts that run all over the place that keep it working and a business dropbox account and the list goes on.

    So try and see. If you can manage to scrape enough of a list and still build enough links to project and its within the cost you want to spend and the time you want to spend, then your good.

    If it costs you too much time, too much money or you simply can't get it done, then you might do well to purchase a list.

    For me it boils down to time, its my most valuable resource. So Ive spent mountain loads of it building a system, but I sell lists and use my own so it works. If I didn't sell lists, I wouldn't build my own just for my own use, Id buy them hands down because my time is much better spent elsewhere.

    And some people do both, buy lists and setup a project or two in GSA that just runs out there all the time and supplements the list. If you don't need to use all your resources to build links for your own projects then it would be a waste not to also scrape your own to maximize resource use.
     
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    trollini Junior Member

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    He just wanted to say "yes if you have time to scrape, if no, buy a list"
     
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    Most blog comments are spammed to death on lists bought online.
     
  5. nycdude

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    I've tried subbing for lists before and I was generally disappointed, yes indeed the lists have 300K - 400K links but they are for the most part the easy, trashy links to get. The most important platforms, in my opinion, are article platforms (first linking tier) that can post nice, lengthy articles with well made contexual links. Lists DO have 20,000+ article platforms, but I'd say a good 90% of trash. They either don't post full articles, are in foreign languages, or are the dreaded 'Joomla K2' links which are known to be problematic for SEO.

    I have done some testing running Scrapebox (and automator plugin) to look only for the articles platforms I find desirable, used the GSA platform identifier to sort them out, while simultaneously feeding GSA to try to post to the found links. Extremely low success rates, even when testing with non-spammy, unspun articles. I can usually identify upwards of 100,000 platforms for my keywords and will maybe get just a couple dozen successfully verified posted. I can run GSA at 2000 threads, upwards to 100MBPS data continuously on 100 paid proxies, and still get such low yields.

    I do believe that just buying lists is easier, I just can't get the success rates I want for the exact platforms I seek, as I don't feel it would be viable to keep upgrading my current system.
     
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    cashcorp Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Like Loopline, I'm obviously a bit biased. But honestly?

    If I was you, I would start out scraping as best you can - Scrapebox, Gscraper, spend a week on it. Add some new search engines, and all the footprints you can get your hands on, to GSA as well.

    Do all that - give it your full attention and best effort. If its enough - Great! Why should you pay anybody for anything?

    If you end up being like me, then you'll do... both!

    The entire reason I ended up releasing 1Linklist to the public was that I just. could. not. get enough links.

    Seriously. I was subbed to every service, AND scraping my own. In the end I went full-on obsessive and, like Loopline, ended up with a massive crawler running on $4500 worth of servers every month.

    1Linklist literally exists to.. offset its own operating cost.

    But depending on what your doing, and what scale your working at, you may not need all of that.
     
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    Don't know if much has changed, but I used to generate a targeted seedlist from Scrapebox and dump it in SEO List Builder to scrape for relevant footprints. Nets me a sizable list to run with GSA.
     
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    If you want to play save and money, better go scraping your own lists with a new freshy footprint that haven't been abused to death by spammers. It's takes time but really worthy at the end