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Operation "Bringing Down The House"...You Want In???

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Elliot305, Jun 24, 2014.

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  1. Elliot305

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    thread closed....
     
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  2. KELLOGGS

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    I'll save you the effort of typing out a JV thread. After Chailak, JVs requiring investment are no longer allowed to be promoted through BHW.
     
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  3. Asif WILSON Khan

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    The problem with this is that is is highly unlikely you will get paid.

    You have tried both methods and been unsuccessful with selling the exploit to the company and cashing out.

    Using the exploit would in most cases be illegal and fraudulent.

    Announcing it on a PUBLIC forum and attempting to recruit partners, seems foolish.

    I would advise coming up with another idea.
     
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  4. Elliot305

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    Oh, my bad. Even if such investment isn't going to me? That's why I suggested having a third-party handle such a thing.
     
  5. Asif WILSON Khan

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    This isn't the right forum, there are several underground criminal forums where people may purchase the exploit from you.
    Before you ask, no I won't share them but they can be found if you search hard enough.
     
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    If you made any significant money with this, they would look into it, not pay you, then most likely take a lawful action against you.

    Any takers?
     
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  7. Elliot305

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    I would hardly call what I found "criminal" no more than all the other tactics used on this forum. To each is own I guess. People who exploit or screw with SEO rankings or use coupon codes to advertise are criminals too by that logic. This exploit is different from the marketing ones talked about on this forum and I get that. But hey, I'm testing out the gaming industry now..it's not everyone's cup up tea. Guess I partake in criminal activity now because it falls outside the scope of your comfort level and habits of what you read on this forum. But if I made a thread sharing how to exploit Google's ranking to get to number 1 position, well then, I'm a Saint, lol.
     
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    if it is allowed, then count me in :)
     
  9. Asif WILSON Khan

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    No, sorry Mate, you have no clue what you are talking about.
    The exploit isn't illegal until you use it for financial gain.
    The fact you mention coupon codes, makes me think you have little understanding.
    You need to carry out research into the legal aspects of exploiting.
    Any good Computer Security site should have enough information for you.
     
  10. Elliot305

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    I may have no clue what I'm talking about but you don't have a single clue on what I'm doing to even suggest that it is criminal. So, if you firmly believe that, let me do my "criminal" thing and stay out of it. I come up with exploits and methods others don't think are even possible. I've been doing this for 7 years now and 3 years before that I was exploiting offline methods to making money...this is what I do. I share what I can on this forum and believe others have benefited from it.

    You know how many times I've been arrested and put in jail? Zero! So I'm either a super criminal mastermind running from country to country fleeing the law or perhaps, just perhaps, you don't know what you're talking about. Hmmm
     
  11. Elliot305

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    I can do two things:

    (1) Take down this thread as I just learned JVs that require an investment (albeit to a third-party) aren't allowed and I'm not sure about openly sharing and trusting random people to rev share with me,

    or

    (2) To demonstrate that I'm not in the business to scam anyone, show a highly trusted Mod what I can do and have them report back whether I'm full of shit or not. In return for providing up front proof to them for all interested members, I would be allowed to entertain forming this JV on an investment basis, still having a third-party appointed to the funds.
     
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  12. Asif WILSON Khan

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    Forget about the "criminal" part.
    Look up the definition of "exploit".
    YOU WON'T GET PAID

    For somebody that has that much experience you should know NOT TO F#CKING BROADCAST IT on a public forum.

    Just one question, if your exploit works, how much have you banked from it?
     
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    Depending on the exploit and what you were doing it could be anywhere from debatable to completely criminal.

    I remember in the early days of online gaming a guy worked out that the random card sequences weren't actually random and he worked out the algorithm. He was then able to work out the exact sequence of the deck after very few cards were displayed.

    He made himself a lot of money with what was technically an exploit and I don't think that was illegal (I may be wrong).

    But if he had hacked the backend and found the sequence that way, it would have been 100% illegal and criminal.

    If I were you I would at least get some proper advice about the legality of what you are doing before going any further.

    If not you may end up picking a fight with a company who are both cash-rich and litigious.

    And those sort of fights never end well.
     
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    Is it this guy:
    http://www.wired.com/2013/05/game-king/
    http://gizmodo.com/should-it-be-illegal-to-exploit-a-video-poker-bug-and-w-486743799
     
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    Lol, it's no secret what I do. I have not mentioned the company, the exploit or anything related to it so BROADCASTING IT, as you put it...I don't see how I'm doing that one bit. I'm exploring my options at this point, nothing more nothing less. I figured BHW is my home to see if others may be interested. Don't see the harm in that. Also, I just figured it out this morning and have successfully made a test cash out after deploying it.
     
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    OK Mate, you get on with it. Good Luck lol
     
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    No, the guy I'm talking about focussed on the online poker and blackjack sites.

    Basically the decks were randomly electronically shuffled before play started. But he worked out that it wasn't as random as they thought.

    Essentially he figured out how they generated the random number to start the shuffle and then worked out all the possible deck sequences.

    He was then able to isolate the exact deck sequence after several cards were displayed.

    And once he had done that, it was win time.
     
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    Also, just want to clear this up...what I found has nothing to do with "hacking" into their system. Truthfully, I'm not smart enough to do that. All my exploits are based on procedural things.
     
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    I like not being locked up so I tend to stay away from fraud.

    Good Luck OP
     
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    Closing thread...will open a new one once I make contact with a Mod.
     
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