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Only URL sandboxed, not whole domain

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by seojumper, Jun 14, 2010.

  1. seojumper

    seojumper Regular Member

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    I started this website 3 months ago. 2 months ago I started to link it with about 3 links per day with blogposts on different blogs. Site now has about 150 articles with unique content.

    After 2 months this site is improving nicely, but I noticed something very strange.

    My main keyword "blue widget" is included in domain. The root is linked with 60-70% of the links with "blue widget" anchor. The rest is deeplinking to articles.

    But the root is not ranking for the "blue widget", another article is ranking for it with the title of "best blue widget". This article is not linked much , it has about 4 links, while the root has 42. The root is heavily optimized for "blue widget".

    Is it possible, that Google sanboxes URL too, not whole domain?

    And what should I do now?
     
  2. seojumper

    seojumper Regular Member

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    Yes...

    In normal circustnces my root page URL should rank for blue widget. But it does not.
    So I am wondering it this URL (my root) is being penalized because of overlinking.
     
  3. Ramsweb

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    I got a friend with a similar problem. He runs a classified site and his site appears in results like used furniture, jobs in region etc..but the main keyword "xxx classifieds" his url is missing.

    He did not do any sort of linking to the inside pages and only back linked the main page. It has been that way for about three weeks and I am guessing that he has hit the sandbox for his main index page.
     
  4. seojumper

    seojumper Regular Member

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    Seems that this is similar problem.
    Maybe your friend can create xxx-classfields.com/xxx-classfields URL to see if this URL ranks for main keyword.
     
  5. BostonBadBoy

    BostonBadBoy Newbie

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    For newer sites, change your anchor text around unless the links are on a PR3+ site. For new sites, higher quality is better. Sometimes less is more.
     
  6. *Candi*

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    Hi buddy,
    I have same problem like.
    Would you recover from it?:oops:
     
  7. xboxps3wow

    xboxps3wow Power Member

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    same happened to me, i was ranking on the second page a now the main page doesn't rank anywhere and is deindexed.. other pages are doing ok though
     
  8. yowies

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    now the main page doesn't rank anywhere and is deindexed.

    Sigh...no it is not deindexed if other pages of your site are still appearing in the serps.
    You are confusing the terms deindexed with "doesnt rank"..
    Deindexed means..not indexed anymore by the search engine in question.!
    If the root was deindexed then all of your site would be..
     
  9. seojumper

    seojumper Regular Member

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    In my case, root is penalized, becaause it has the most links and it is well onsite targeted for the specific keyword. Unfortunetly another URL on the website is ranking for the term, and this URL has way less link power.
     
  10. MisterGemini

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    It's likely the content of that one page has more relevant data to the search term than your home page does, regardless of domain name matching etc.

    Goo doesn't just count the links anymore, they see if the content of your page matches the query type of the keyword. In other words, your got more/better match in that page than you do in your home page.

    Either your home page is not clear enough, or it has too many other pieces of snippet data that make it less relevant to the query.

    You weren't sandboxed at all, you just don't have a clear enough home page to make it a good match.
     
  11. imperial109

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    MisterGemini is right, G's new rules value relevancy more nowadays, and looks closely at individual pages rather than the site as a whole.

    The best thing to do in this situation is to create a solid internal linking structure. When visitors come to your site, they should be able to reach other content on your site very easily. G also values this.
    For example tags, such as those in WP, and hierarchy structure, like: home > category > article
    Each one being a link obviously.
     
  12. MisterGemini

    MisterGemini Senior Member

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    You want to make your 'major' keywords your categories and pass links through to them via internal links and maybe even tags ;)

    Here is something you can do if you really want your home page coming up first.. take that page that is ranking, and make it your 'home' page. You will get your home domain showing up in no time. Though you might lose your entire site link structure in the process. :)
     
  13. mjayson

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    I've seen the same issue on a few domains - definitely some penalty and not just related to the content. Did had a bunch of blackhat links to the mainroot so something most have been triggered in this new update besides the content signals.
     
  14. seojumper

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    My home page is higly optimized for "blue widgets" in title + meta + first article. There is 10 more articles on homepage.

    So I am not sure if that is the case MisterGemini. But we'll see, I am playing now with content moving, title changing etc..
     
  15. takeachance

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    This is not entirely correct....I have a sub page which was indexed and doing nicely. Started to throw a couple of links at it and once it was in the index, now the page has been DEINDEXED - the point is, the rest of the site is indexed fine. Therefore you can have sub pages deindexed (i.e. removed from the index) whilst maintaining other pages which remain.....
     
  16. PandaMeat

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    I blasted the index page of a site on accident once with shitty links.. (i.e. 10's of 1000s of links in one day to a month old domain) and that page dissapeared for about 6-7 months. Other pages ranked for the same phrase later and the rest of the site was indexed and showed up. But the index page was gone. Same thing you are describing. I focused on a couple other pages and got them to number one for the phrases I wanted for the index page.
     
  17. x-bassist

    x-bassist Junior Member

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    Arghh, this URL sandboxed happened to my site starting from today.
    My url site : mykeyword.org and it was no 1 in google for my keyword.
    Today i check again, and its missing from entire page of google.

    Then i did a search, site:mykeyword.org,
    Strange, my root domain not in there, but all other pages are fine.

    What should i do now ?