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Once you know your keywords, do you use a keyword per page or do you group them?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by DeSearchify, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. DeSearchify

    DeSearchify Newbie

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    Let's say we have following example of keywords:

    dog training
    training dog
    train dog
    train dogs

    Would you create a separate page for each? Would you group them?

    If you were to group them how would you use them in single page? Can you target several keywords per page?
     
  2. dannyhw

    dannyhw Senior Member

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    Don't worry about targeting keywords to pages. Each page of content should have a unique topic and the rest will work itself out.

    The least trouble you run into is that your site will just be weird and obviously spammy for the end user. The worst that could happen is Google will see you've got a lot of pages that basically say the same thing and you'll get a nasty penalty. Matching keywords to pages is actually pretty easily detected and a dead giveaway these days.
     
  3. JuggernautJukey

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    Using a page for a keyword which obviously doesn't fit, will probably end up being penalized.

    Training dog, or train dog don't fit into conversation very well. If you are in this for the long haul, you HAVE to think of the reader/visitor first, they are the ones who make you the $$, so provide good content which is useful to them, and forget about the keywords.
     
  4. screw123

    screw123 Junior Member

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    For the examples you wrote I use just one page - they are too similar and it's cheaper to rank all of them on one page.
     
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  5. danms

    danms Regular Member

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    Google these phrases. Do you see different results on the first page?

    Same page, targeting one main keyword and the rest is longtail -> will come naturally.
     
  6. ilovestocks

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    If it makes sense to the reader , I group them all together. It's the work smarter not harder principle. For example: I had rather write 1 good long detailed article and add 4 keywords instead of writing 4 different smaller articles to target them separately. You will be ranking your article for more than 1 keyword this way. I only do this if it's natural and makes sense to the reader. Many times things aren't related enough to do this but I group when I can.

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  7. StuartWalker

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    Write for your audience not for Google. Google doesn't care about you and your visitors won't either if you write keyword laden junk they can't read.

    I write around topics my target audience have problems with. I go to forums in the niche and see what questions they are asking (these are problems they have) and then I answer the questions in the form of blog posts.

    Keywords are an after thought if at all. Sure if there's a way to include a decent KW in the article then I will but I won't force it in at the expense of the readibility.

    Write naturally and keywords will naturally find their way into your articles.
     
  8. Techxan

    Techxan Elite Member

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    Dead on.

    If you were to do each word with a page of it's own, you would actually be doing one of the things that hummingbird is designed to filter out.

    With hummingbird the Google is trying to figure out (among other things)is what the search query means to the searcher prior to finding a result rather than simply looking for a page with the keywords in it.

    For instance, if you search for dinner in New york, you will get restaurants even though you did not search for the word "restaurant". Google understands that this use of the word "dinner" in this context (to the searcher) is about eating out. In short, Google is starting to understand synonyms.

    What this means from an SEO standpoint is that use of closely related words that are essentially the same will be treated as the same keyword, making such a site come up as spamy. All of these pages will be about the very same thing to Google.

    Google understands that (to the searcher)

    dog training
    training dog
    train dog
    train dogs

    are essentially the same thing.

    What matters today is quality content and quality associations, unless you are churn and burn.
     
  9. Techxan

    Techxan Elite Member

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    Right there is a workable method anyone can follow.