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On-page/site vs Off-page/site SEO question?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Scorpion Ghost, Dec 6, 2014.

  1. Scorpion Ghost

    Scorpion Ghost Senior Member

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    I know there are tons of articles out there and stuff, but they just throw the words on-page/site SEO and off-page/site SEO around. I have a specific question about Off-site SEO.

    On-site SEO, say for the Website as a whole, the description, the interlinking and such.

    Then on-page SEO, the keyword density, the description, the picture's tags, etc.

    I'm clear on that.

    Then we get to the off-site/page SEO.

    So we got link building, social networking/bookmarking sites, forums, etc.

    But is there any difference between off-site and off-page SEO??

    Like, what, one is the links you build back to your homepage and the other is the links you build back to your pages?

    I just need to understand this because I'm building my own folders with information for myself and I'm unsure. Basically, off-site and off-page SEO is the same thing, right?
     
  2. LakeForest

    LakeForest Supreme Member

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    Oh wow, are people differentiating between on-site and on-page now, even when we always say that ranking is page by page?(Though the domain does have a value marker itself)

    I have no idea what off-page vs off-site SEO could mean, they're the same(unless you're talking about SEO on a social media page or something, I guess, but that's just splitting hairs). They probably mean the same thing so if someone makes that distinction, verify what they're talking about. I bet you'll even intimidate them by having so much knowledge about the subject and that'll help level them out a bit!
     
  3. lord1027

    lord1027 Elite Member

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    On-page -> You make changes/optimizations/build backlinks from your site to your site
    Off-page -> You build backlinks from other websites to your site

    Edit: my bad, I didn't read it right. Off-page = Off-site
     
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    Lol. You are confused.

    On-page SEO = On-site SEO
    Off-page SEO = Off-site SEO

    Some folks prefer using either of both variants but they mean the same thing.
     
  6. Sonakshi60

    Sonakshi60 Newbie

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    This is what happens when you think too much, its just two things, one being work done on your website and another work done to boost your rankings in the form of links and social signals.
     
  7. Techxan

    Techxan Elite Member

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    There is a difference between Offsite SEO, Onpage SEO, and Offpage SEO.

    Offsite is obvious.

    Onpage SEO is all the things on a particular page.

    Off page SEO is optimizaions that you take on the site itself other than on a page.

    A sitemap is offpage seo (Optimizing the site), not onpage (its not optimizing any page). Having your domain registered for 10 years is Offpage SEO. A robots file, too. These are not components of a particular page, but they are a component of the site's SEO.

    There are a number of other things you can do for SEO that is off page, like having https, using a private IP address, even site structure, is onsite (offpage) SEO, not onpage SEO.
     
  8. vagnerprestige

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    It seems to me like they are relatively the same. I mean you want to rank your pages as well as your site itself, right?
    I think there might be certain situations where it is appropriate to make the distinction, but most of the time you will be focusing on the same aspects.
     
  9. LakeForest

    LakeForest Supreme Member

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    Techxan, that was a whole lot of hair splitting and confusion.

    Read your post again with the mind of a new person and see if any of that made sense or was coherent from start to finish.

    Propagating the difference between Off|On-Site and Off|On-Page without clear defining distinctions doesn't help anyone. Since we're here, we might as well be the ones to do it.

    Distinctions:

    On-Site: SEO done On the Site, optimizing the configuration of your site. Includes: Domain Names, Server and IP, Sitemap, Robots, URLs, Posts|Content, Keyword Targeting, etc.

    On-Page: Focusing on optimizing the configuration of a single page with no linking involved, whether the page is on your site, or another site(such as a profile on FB or elsewhere).
    If it's a page on your site, Included: Includes: Domain Names, Server and IP, Sitemap, Robots, URLs, Posts|Content, Keyword Targeting, etc.
    If it is a page off your site, Includes: URLs(if you can modify them), Posts|Content, Keyword Targeting, etc.

    Off-Site: SEO done Off the Site, linking to your site from other sites. Includes: Backlinks, Anchors, Keyword Linking, Attracting Content, etc.

    Off-Page: Focusing on optimizing the configuration of a single page with linking involved to the page, whether to your site, or another site(such as a profile on FB or Youtube elsewhere). Included: Backlinks, Anchors, Keyword Linking, Attracting Content, etc.



    ^ add to or change these.

    Why is SEO going down this strange, confusing road? So many split ends! Is it to confuse clients on purpose? OP, where did you hear these multiple meanings?
     
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  10. Scorpion Ghost

    Scorpion Ghost Senior Member

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    Well thanks LakeForest.

    I read a lot, about a lot of things related to making money online.

    I mean, usually any article will pick two of the terms, or one, but then at some point I came across an article that broke it down into these 4 categories.

    Honestly, your take on them is a little different than what I had in mind.

    Thanks for the input. It makes sense.
     
  11. Techxan

    Techxan Elite Member

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    And I was splitting hairs?

    I defer to your superior knowledge and enunciation skills.
     
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    On-Site SEO: This refers to all the things you can do to and throughout your website to ensure that the website home page ranks highly in Google, Yahoo and MSN.

    On-Page SEO: Similarly, this refers to what you can do to individual web pages or blog posts on your website or blog respectively to get those individual pages or posts to rank highly in the search engines.
    Meta Information Of the Page
    Keyword Density
    Page Load time etc..

    Off-Site SEO: This is concerned with all the things that can be done on other websites to help your site or blog home page rank well in all the search engines, with the focus as always on Google.

    Off-Page SEO: This is basically the same as off-site SEO and has the same purpose, but at the page or post level. Do this to get your individual pages and posts to rank well on their own in Google. Also by doing off-page SEO you will be helping the overall ranking of your site as well.
     
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    I want to tell you without onsite you never get traffic .
     
  14. LakeForest

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    Oh hush Techxan :p I'm frustrated at the people who thought it was necessary to complicate the situation more without adding value. No need for it so we have to nip it in the bud.

    I forgot to mention internal linking is also a large part of on-site and on-page SEO, so there is linking involved in a way, just not backlinking. Make sure navigating the site is easy, keyword oriented without exaggerating, and is within your sitemap.

    Let's focus on getting the metrics of our site up to standard, but let's not forget to also focus on delivering value and converting.
     
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    Hi Lakeforest ,
    would you be able to optimize my site built on Zenfolio platform ?
    please let me know .
    thank you !