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OMG!! FIVER KILLED MY SITE!! What do I do now?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by volund, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. volund

    volund Senior Member

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    Maybe I am just noticing them more but there seems to be a lot more of these kinds of posts lately. I have seen half a dozen is just the last few days.

    You would think that after seeing a bunch of these threads people would start thinking that maybe paying some guy $5 to blast his site with a few thousand low quality links might not be such a good idea. Unfortunately that does not appear to be the case.

    Really people stop using fiver or any other service that "blasts" links to your brand new money site.


    You went to a lot of trouble to build your site, either write the content or pay someone to write it for you. Why would you just start throwing link blasts at it without any planning. Seriously it is like building a brand new house and going outside and throwing rock through the windows.


    Before you build link #1 to your site make a plan...........


    Think of all the link building advice you have read here and then make a plan for the first three months. Know exactly what you are going to do each and every week. Now whether you do it yourself or you outsource it does not matter at all. You do however want to have a plan so that at the end of three months you have a nice solid link profile for your site.

    What do we know about what kind of link profile we want to end up with?

    We know we should have a diverse link profile where our links comes from multiple sites and multiple types of links.

    We know that we probably want a good share of our links to be contextual since Google seems to favor those types of links now.

    We know that we want to build out links in a fairly steady but accelerating manner.

    We know that we need to backlink the links to our money sites so that all the links to our sites do not come from pages with no incoming links.

    We know that unless we have a very small niche site with just one page that we need to build links to all the pages on our site to get them to rank.

    and I could keep going with all the thing we know or at least have a pretty good idea are good things to do. The information is here to be read and while there are disagreements on some issues there are quite a few where there is a fairly good consensus.

    So before you start build links think of a few things.

    What is the most links you can build or outsource in a week?

    List what types of links and how many you want at the end of three months.

    What is the best way to get to having zero links to having the number you plan on having at the end of that critical first three months?

    Make a plan, write it all out, think about it, and then if you are not sure about a particular part start a thread and ask.

    I know personally I would much rather give my advice on someones long term link building plan that to advise them on how to get out of a hole they have already dug for them selves.

    Seriously guys reading those threads are painful especially since in almost every case it was 100% preventable.
     
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  2. _clicking_

    _clicking_ Power Member

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    For $5 I will "kill your site" :D

    I'd only use fiverr for tier 1 and tier 2, never money site
     
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  3. THECEO

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    Agreed. Def good for lower tier links.
     
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    Shhhh! keeps the competition from biting my ankles.
     
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    Great post. +REP :)
     
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    Yeah, it's definitely getting annoying. I'm a firm believer in you get what you pay for. I do use Fiverr for certain things but definitely not anything that would hurt my site.
     
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    HAHAHA! That is such a great analogy! Thanks and rep given. Great post!
     
  8. Mutikasa

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    that blasts are not good.
    people should give services like 50links per day until you reach 2000 links, instead of one blast
     
  9. PHustler

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    Fiverr doesnt kill sites. The dumb asses that think blasting 20k xrumer links at a brand new site helps actually kills them.

    If people would learn how to actually use services in the right way there they wouldn't complain about their sites dropping off the radar.
     
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  10. volund

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    While I suppose I find it a bit annoying as well I mostly feel bad for the ones that do not really know better. Yes they should do their research and homework but for some reason so many do not and then they get into a hole that is hard to get out of.
     
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    it is common rookie mistake. people think that more links = more rankings = more $$

    you can use these blast services, but its all in how you use them. asyou suggested mate!

    diversity is key these days for success in Google. don't get stuck with blasting a million xrumer style links and think thats the way to the top.
     
  12. volund

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    Hmmm.... Catchy thread title..... The post itself actually addresses that situation though I admit I was a bit more long winded about it.
     
  13. BombDigg

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    okay, so you've established the problem - d*mb*ss newbs trying to get rich quick with fiver gigs - but your solution is not quite as detailed.

    For example, I hope to start my SEO campaign for a site of mine and my plan was to only use the fiverr gigs for my tier1, tier2, and tier3 sites.

    Are you telling me I shouldn't use fiver gigs at all? Or are you saying I need to be more discerning?

    Social bookmarking, profile links, and blog comments have shown to work.... but only if you use them in the proper way.

    What is your recommended solution here? That is, what should I look for when purchasing a fiver gig or other SEO company's "blast" service?

    Any advice is greatly appreciated.

    thanks
     
  14. SuperNoobInc

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    "If words of command are not clear and distinct, if orders are not thoroughly understood, then the general is to blame." - Sun Tzu

    People really shouldnt blame on fiverr gigs, when they have no idea what they are doing themselves. Fiverr gigs can be one reliable source for link building process, at least thats what I found so far.
     
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    very true.... but maybe someone has some insight regarding my question in post #13 above?
     
  16. Finite

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    fivver blasting gigs can be useful for the bigger websites but for a smaller on i agree, you will just end up killing it. what would be better is using services like all in one SEO where you get small blasts daily, keeps you under the radar
     
  17. Zemanel_

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    Someone killed your website, not fiverr...
     
  18. SuperNoobInc

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    well, i havent tried this, but maybe you can ask if the seller can split the 1000 blast into 4, blasting to different url etc.? then each blast will only be 250, and i am sure some of those links wont be picked up by google immediately anyways, just let it crawl/index naturally?
     
  19. BombDigg

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    so we are in agreement.... fiver is not inherently bad as long as you keep the blasts to a minimum and spread them out evenly?

    ooorrrr.... still disagree?


    and does it matter if its a:
    social bookmarking blast
    vs.
    profile links blast
    vs.
    blog commenting blast
    vs.
    RSS feed submission blast

    My strategy in post #13 above says to just use these gigs for your tier1 2 or 3. NOT your money site. Thoughts?
     
  20. OldSalt

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    True buying a fiverr blast targeting your money site looks pretty stupid, but I can see buying a small multi-tier web 2.0 pyramid (a few web 2.0s pointing at the money site and then blasting the web2.0s)... but only for a MNS that has very weak competition so hitting #1 shouldn't be that hard...

    but using fiverr to blast a new site with thousands of links... lmao... yea... very bad idea...