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[OMG] EU cookie law - The Death of Affiliate Marketing

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by ShadeDream, May 13, 2012.

  1. ShadeDream

    ShadeDream Elite Member

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    Just found out about the EU cookie law and I'm not happy at all. It may not kill affiliate marketing but it'll definitely bring down income for those that are selling products as affiliates. These new regulations will probably wipe out a lot of noobs too. It's time to start thinking of alternative income sources and loopholes to bypass this bullshit.

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    http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-05/02/cookies-made-simple
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    http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/news/1131431/charities-fear-new-eu-rules-website-cookies-will-deter-users/
     
  2. mrsix

    mrsix Power Member

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    Shit good thing I'm not in any EU countries :D
     
  3. Halilovic-Squad

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    hmmm...in first sight this sounds like BS...
    ...but i think there will be ways to integrate a user-confirmation properly.
    ...this may indeed hurt a lot of people but i guess it won`t be too difficult to work something out that doesn`t harm a buisness too much.
    ...more interestingly - how will this be tracked or controlled by the law.
     
  4. CSalt2

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    How ridiculous, the browsers offer a option to accept or reject cookies if you choose...
     
  5. lancis

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    Well we have the technology ready for that law:

    - content locker asking to accept cookies - now more valid than ever
    - agreed to accept? send him to CPA offer
    - disagreed? send him to the next site with the same locker
     
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    Sorry, I don't see how it could get implemented, too many variables.
     
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    oh this crap again!

    yeah the twats in Brussels come up with all sorts of wonderful ideas but can barely organise a piss up in a brewery!!!
    it was introduced last May (i think) but there was a year to become compliant or something.

    i would like to see it enforced though, how the hell are they going to police the millions and millions of web sites out there?
    death of affiliate marketing, i doubt that very much, a simple disclaimer or click to accept type thing is all that is needed to become compliant if you a care
     
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    Lalalaenhund Power Member

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    Fucking offline people are so clueless about the internet, yet they're still allowed to make all kinds of stupid laws... (And by "offline people" I mean old people who didn't grow up with the internet and are too old to get accustomed to it)
     
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    True to that, now they are going to spend millions on enforcing that law. Businesses will loose millions on compiling to this law.

    While all that was needed is to enforce the 4 major Internet browsers to implement functionality that allows the user to accept cookies once and forever.
     
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    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    Wouldn't the loophole be to setup an American llc,that owns the website and affiliate account?
     
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    The EU is just getting worse and worse. Let's hope the US doesn't follow those footsteps.
     
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    It's BS, and it will never happen. They can only dream about enforcing this because it would cost not millions, but billions.
    Thus, the major affiliate industry is able to strike back against this if they find them self in a profit loss situation. What would happen if amazon is not available in the EU countries ? People would go really mad.
     
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    But if you are selling to EU then u should comply with it..

     
  14. Dn100

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    The cookie regulation there will hit pretty much 99% of all websites within the EU, as who doesn't run a site professionally without some sort of analytics? Therefore, none of the sites which target customers within EU states are compliant - there is no way they can police it and almost impossible to enforce - shows just how out of touch "the powers that be" are.

    If they want to push something like this into force, then they need to target it at the browser level. Force browsers to ask users when they first install/use the browser if they wish to accept cookies (informing them the positives/negatives in doing so), this way everyone is completely compliant, and people cannot complain about cookies being installed as they have accepted it.

    If they don't wish to accept it, they switch it off and risk a poorer browsing experience or popups on sites telling them cookies need to be working to view the content etc.

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    Someone mentioned above a prime example of a site which uses cookies - Amazon. If your browse amazon whilst logged in, you get an email later saying "You May Be Interested In..." and a list of items you previously looked at/alternatives.. They track what you search for and email you to try and convert you based on your previous activity.

    I bet Amazon won't turn off their tracking, promotional tools and analytics, and would the EU really want to afford a public case against someone like them?
     
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    And no one gave a fuck and most of the people lived happily ever after ....

    ps. EU can suck dick and die
     
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    Nope. That would be too easy.

     
  17. borg

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    They could at least provide people with a script to implement this, this is a complete scam, and will be stopped as soon as big companies are hit with fines and possibly a blackout similar to the SOPA/PIPA protest happened,
    Soon they'll start charging for air and people will 'comply'
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    nocookielaw.com/how-to-protest
    I was gonna post this video to show an implementation of this but someone rightfully commented on youtube that this isnt an opt in dialogue but an opt out one which doesn't even comply with the laws
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    youtube.com/watch?v=ccSMykN2qsI&feature=related
     
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    Exactly. Imagine millions of websites asking your permission to enable cookies. That will just drive a general user crazy. He or she neither doesn't have to nor wants to go through that. So they will just enable it at browser level and auto accept all cookies.

    If you think about it, cookies aren't alsways so bad. It doesn't hurt if someone knows what kind of products I'm interested in and keeps suggesting them. Sometimes it's good.
     
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    EU destroying everything good. Don't know what BS will be Europe in next few years. It sucks here more and more with these morons in the EU's parlament...
     
  20. Theodore

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    I have to agree the EU is getting a lot worse and pathetic... This doesnt really affect me that much as most my sites are american based companies, but I can see how this is going to kill a lot of peoples businesses :\