Ok, so tell me what this scam is
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myrtlebeachdude
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- Jun 26, 2009
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Fake check. They send you a check for $500. You send $250 via money gram to the "movers". 7-14 days later the bank finds out the check was a counterfeit or was written using someone elses bank account number. They call you up saying you owe them the money, or if your unlucky...police will show up at your door as well. Then you are out of your furniture and in debt with the bank.
JohnG
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- Feb 24, 2008
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The cashiers check will be fake, it will look real and you will be able to deposit it with your bank but it will eventually come back as fraud. The "delivery charges" will probably be high and you would send them to the mover before you know his check was a fake. He will get those delivery charges himself, and be out no money.
The other twist on this is that his "accountant" or some other party accidently sent you to much money and he wants you to money gram him back the difference, minus some for yourself. So say it was $400 he might send you $1400 and ask that you send him back $800 and keep $200 for you trouble. So yo just sent the guy $800, the check bounces, and your screwed. CL has these scams going on all over and yet we affiliate marketers are the ones they worry about, got to love it.
The other twist on this is that his "accountant" or some other party accidently sent you to much money and he wants you to money gram him back the difference, minus some for yourself. So say it was $400 he might send you $1400 and ask that you send him back $800 and keep $200 for you trouble. So yo just sent the guy $800, the check bounces, and your screwed. CL has these scams going on all over and yet we affiliate marketers are the ones they worry about, got to love it.
ForeverNever
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- Sep 17, 2008
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nvm i seem outnumbered. they're probably right. 
blackstone37
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- Jul 23, 2009
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Easy. Their payment to you is bogus and your payment to the mover(them actually) is like cash...moneygram. Their check to you is worthless for sure.
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Griffin
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- Feb 17, 2009
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As said before, only it's probably a stolen checking account. You gotta watch out for this, especially if you get sent a lot of affiliate (etc) checks. I've been sent shitloads of checks and almost deposited a couple of fraudulent checks. Those checks went waaay above and beyond to prove they were real, that's how I knew they were fake.
These can bounce a long time after deposit, so watch out!
These can bounce a long time after deposit, so watch out!
MachTurtle
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- Sep 12, 2009
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I got one of those. I was trying to sell off an old guitar on CL a long while back, got a similar response. I knew something was up, but I gave him the details just out of curiosity, wanted to see the angle. Got the check, and as I expected, I could have done a better job of counterfeiting a cashiers check with a box of crayola and scrap paper. The idiot also left a trail, so I dug it up, and sent out an email that undoubtedly made him shit his pants.
userlogsin
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- Feb 14, 2009
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That is good but not everybody is that lucky.
But we do not realise a possibility for us.
See, this guy is smart and did not let the other guy take over him but if I was the scammer I would have still gained from him - with just as many steps he took (sans sending a dupe check and finding da scammer out). Guys he still gave his real name and phone number and email and also address. That is too much of info to make him sign up for a lot of CPA offers. We already know he is curious. So just give him something interesting that makes him try to find out if it is really true and your job is done.
Now dont we know how to monetize this. A hell lot of ways
Let me know what you think about this.
PPS: MachTurtle, I wish everyone is as careful.
PPPS: I hate these fraudsters. There are a hell lot of other ways to make money than just outright stealing people.
BHW Rocks
PerfectChoice4u
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- Jul 24, 2009
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True story, I went and got something very similar once , the old Nigerian check scam. So i went and followed thru with it front to back, almost. Had him send me my "payment" to a po box, got the check. And then when i got it, it was for a bank called "suntrust bank"
I went and called the bank, thru their merchant services saw if the funds were available, and sure enough, they were.
Now, I was in a bad place. I knew i could probably go and cash the check, keep all the money, and then go and say "Oh noes I've been conned", even though i knew what was going on from front to back.
But, despite thinking there was a decent chance i could get away with it or at the very least simply have to repay the money, I decided to tear the check up.
Several days later, I found a string of people HAD BEEN ARRESTED for cashing the checks, though they prob all got off and simply had to repay it.
The reason, oddly enough, why the person scammed is responsible and why the bank doesn't just eat the cost, is because when you sign the back of a check to deposit it its called "Endorsing the check", meaning your "Vouching" that you know the person who wrote it to you.
Anyways, just thought I'd share an actual experience with these guys, good racket they have, but yeah its dangerous to mess with.
I went and called the bank, thru their merchant services saw if the funds were available, and sure enough, they were.
Now, I was in a bad place. I knew i could probably go and cash the check, keep all the money, and then go and say "Oh noes I've been conned", even though i knew what was going on from front to back.
But, despite thinking there was a decent chance i could get away with it or at the very least simply have to repay the money, I decided to tear the check up.
Several days later, I found a string of people HAD BEEN ARRESTED for cashing the checks, though they prob all got off and simply had to repay it.
The reason, oddly enough, why the person scammed is responsible and why the bank doesn't just eat the cost, is because when you sign the back of a check to deposit it its called "Endorsing the check", meaning your "Vouching" that you know the person who wrote it to you.
Anyways, just thought I'd share an actual experience with these guys, good racket they have, but yeah its dangerous to mess with.
muslickzz
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- May 23, 2008
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these are the new 419'ers
they work by locating items of value (normally 150+), and take a few different routes:
A. they will offer you extra money due to the pickup/shipping. i noramlly get offered 600 for 400 dollars. they will email you with a fake "paypal" or "Western Union" email saying that the money has been removed from the buyers acount but cannot be placed in your account until shipping information has been recieved. obviously IF you really ship it out, you never get your money.
B. they will send you a fake check and ask you to send the item promptly.
C. they will send you a fake check that is MUCH larger than your agreed price. then ask you to first ship the item out, then cash the check, then send them the off balance back. this way they get your item AND your money if it somehow managed to get cashed (believe it or not, ive heard of these things actually being cashed here and there at cornerstores, thing is once they find out its a fake they come looking for -you-.)
they work by locating items of value (normally 150+), and take a few different routes:
A. they will offer you extra money due to the pickup/shipping. i noramlly get offered 600 for 400 dollars. they will email you with a fake "paypal" or "Western Union" email saying that the money has been removed from the buyers acount but cannot be placed in your account until shipping information has been recieved. obviously IF you really ship it out, you never get your money.
B. they will send you a fake check and ask you to send the item promptly.
C. they will send you a fake check that is MUCH larger than your agreed price. then ask you to first ship the item out, then cash the check, then send them the off balance back. this way they get your item AND your money if it somehow managed to get cashed (believe it or not, ive heard of these things actually being cashed here and there at cornerstores, thing is once they find out its a fake they come looking for -you-.)
meathead1234
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- Sep 24, 2008
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Lol, is it just me or does anyone ever wonder how much more successful these scams would be if they paid someone to write the reply in proper English? I needed a cigarette after reading through that overly long message!
maineyak
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- Mar 27, 2008
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Man, I'm in Maine, and some of the categories on CL only have a few listings, do these idiots hit every shithole city and state on CL? When I got this email, I told my GF, this is a scam. She said if anyone would know that, you would. Wonder what she meant by that LOL
martasanto45
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- Jun 23, 2009
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some said you will be able to deposit?
i say you are not able to deposit.. at least me with bank of america you can deposit thru the atm it gives error right away
i say you are not able to deposit.. at least me with bank of america you can deposit thru the atm it gives error right away
showbizvet
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- Oct 1, 2008
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It all been said in the thread, so no doubt you already know... it's a scam and don't do it. While I never had that happen, I did have some Russians contact me via an ebay auction. They wanted to send me a bunch of paypal, I'd deposit, keep a percent and WU them the difference. Tempting since I'd net $1000 per week (in theory), but when I thought about it, it just had to be a scam using stolen credit cards and/or paypals. I opted out, as you should on the furniture deal.