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Official Mail from Xrumer said, they do not recommend we use Xrumer On VPS?

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  1. keeping

    keeping Newbie

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    FYI, I got a mail from Official xrumer said that they do not recommend to use Xrumer on VPS??? So where should I use on if I buy it? My laptop? I think it is crazy, anyone know what happend? thank you.
     
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    marusia Senior Member

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    Xrumer belongs on a vps or server. Don't use it on your computer (lol).
     
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  4. keeping

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    But they said, do not recommend VPS....I am confused~~~
     
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    Yes the performance of xrumer on vps is really bad. Go for dedicated server with dedicated line, preferably 10 Mbps. The link rate is awesome with it (around 500 to 1000 links per min) whereas vps only give 10/15 links per minute
     
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    Dedicated works best, although there are some good VPS servers out there that can offer great speeds.

    It all depends on how many links you want per day.
     
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    Well the problem with VPS is that no matter how many ressources you have, you have still a virtualization layer which is reducing their efficiency.

    Dedicated Server seems indeed the way to go.
     
  8. keeping

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    could you tell me how many choices can I use for Xrumer? 1. Home connection 2. VPS. 3. Dedicated Server? And any more? Any the speed of them is 3>2>1? I only want to blast 2 sites now. Thank you.
     
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    ???????
     
  10. marusia

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    I never do anything from my home computers that isn't whitehat. Reason being when/if your ISP gets complaints, they can shut down your Internet, etc. I lost my ip address and I had to spend 18 hours figuring out what the hell was going on. I couldn't access any Internet. Couple that with only having one computer at the time, and it was a nightmare. It's better to keep your tools on a server (or vps if you can't afford a server). That's my opinion.
     
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    Xrumer is pretty powerful so to get the best performance out of the software its recommended that you use it on a decent spec dedicated server with 100mbps-1gb port connection :)
     
  12. keeping

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    do you know how many profile can it send if use in vps and how about dedi?thank you
     
  13. BHopkins

    BHopkins Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Every VPS and dedi are different, there isn't a set benchmark for every tool.
     
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    Go on
     
  15. shudogg

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    What is so bad about using it on your home internet? Tons of people use scrapebox on their home internet... Yeah you use proxies, especially when hitting wordpress sites, but blogengine and moveable type don't really have a "global" watchdog like wordpress has akismet...

    The only reasons I see of why to not use xrumer on your home pc are these:
    1 - worried about complaints to your ISP
    2 - you have a shitty desktop pc
    3 - you have a shitty internet provider and don't have unlimited bandwidth (haha)

    Solution to #1 - use reliable, fast proxies. You can turn your hosting into a proxy (if you have a vps or dedi for your website hosting). or just be really careful and scrub your lists, ect. to try to keep complaints almost non-existent.

    Solution to #2 - Buy a new desktop PC.. You spend $50 average for a vps. In 10 months, thats $500. I have a new Gateway desktop pc with 1TB hard drive, 6GB RAM, and an intel i5 quadcore and it cost me $500... Damn good investment.. 10 months vps = new PC!

    Solution to #3 - Get a better ISP.. I would never choose an ISP that only gave me x amount of bandwidth! That's retarded!


    Here is some pros of using xrumer or senuke on your own PC... You can change your IP address, and get GREAT success rates because your not using proxies! I just change the mac address of my router, power cycle the modem, BOOM new IP every time... Run xrumer for a few hours, pause, change IP, resume... or SENuke, run a whole job, run ccleaner, change ip, do another full job...

    So is there any other reason of why you shouldn't run xrumer on your home connection, OTHER than complaints?
     
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    You will never achieve the results of usage on a vps or dedi from home this is the only sure .
    You talking about fast proxies. Even if proxies are on 1gb you will get speed of your home connection at blasting which will be limited.



     
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    What ISP were you using? Comcast, FIOS, etc?
     
  18. shudogg

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    What are you talking about? My home internet is faster than MOST of these VPS servers! My desktop is better than the portion you get from MOST of these VPSs. You have to consider, these servers are shared with like 20 other people, running xrumer and senuke at the same time you are!

    I don't need proxies when I can change my IP on the fly.

    My home internet is T1 (fiber optic) 10MB!

    So in a sense, I have my own local VPS in my house!

    So how is this any different... It isn't!

    90% of all the vps' that offer these seo tools are over crowded and over sold!
     
  19. nickk

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    10MB or 10GB ?
    Usually speeds on hosting companies tend to be 1000mbps or 1 gb, so i can't really see how your home connection are much faster.
    I do not know where you live and how much you pay BUT,talking about home connections,but this kind of circuits are NOT leased lines, which is a HUGE difference.

    The reality is that most companies oversell, but I still believe that are some companies that do not use to oversell. Also if isolation of the VPS are well configures you will not have any problems, again IF they do not oversell.

     
  20. shudogg

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    It's 10MB T1 ran to my house via Fiber Optic.

    It doesn't matter if it's a normal person's 6MB cable internet, or a 1GB line... You can run xrumer on a standard 6MB cable connection at 100 threads just fine.

    a 1 gig line is complete OVERKILL even for xrumer at 100 threads.

    So the resources available on a VPS vs a Home Internet connection, are irrelevant as xrumer isn't even coming close to topping it out. All it is doing is loading webpages.. scrapebox does that too... Yes I know, webpages have images and can consume a chunk of bandwidth at once..

    You could run xrumer on a desktop pc in your house at 100 threads, and use another computer in the house at the same time, and not really notice it running (unless your streaming media, playing online games, or downloading files.. however you could just run xrumer at ideal times that don't interfere with these actions)

    The biggest stress with xrumer, is on your computer's resources, not your internet. It is 2012, cable internet at least 6MB is standard.A decent modern day computer can run xrumer at 100 threads just fine.

    So if you can't run xrumer, upgrade your internet or your computer... Instead of paying $50/month for a VPS.

    What many of you fail to realize, is that just because you ticked 100 threads in xrumer.. it isn't loading 100 sites at the exact same time. Depending on how many cores your cpu has, it can only run so many threads at once, the rest are waiting for an opening slot and are in queue! There is a point where 50 threads can and does out perform 100 threads.. The higher the number isn't always better and can actually hurt performance rather than increase it.

    Saying a normal person's home internet and computer can't handle xrumer is absurd. If that is the case, then get a better computer or internet!

    My credibility? I have been on computers for about 15 years. I program in like 5 languages, CISCO certified, A+ certified.